victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
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It is not up for resale found out this morning all moving forward.

victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
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It is not up for resale things are moving forward

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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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Wonder if this is correct
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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victor matcham wrote:It is not up for resale things are moving forward
Or not, as the case may be:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c627zx4gjgeo(Not my real name.)
Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
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My question…….what happens to the grant monies that he was awarded for this project? I don’t believe anyone could go into an enterprise like this without having done the necessary investigations and identified the pit falls.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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Depends on the terms of the grant/reason the were provided - he will only need to refund them if he cannot show that the funds were used for their intended purpose or their is unspent funds. I am fairly certaint that the money will all have disappeared to repay the loan taken out to buy the place, he will of course creatively show how he utilised the monies for the purposes intended - hence the flurry of relatively low cost changes to the non historic buildings on the site probably with hugely over inflated invoices from his own development team for the "build".
Of course I could be wrong and he could return every last penny

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Captain Haddock
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I'm sure that 'lessons will be learned'.
Again.

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victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
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Looks like my report about the western hights was wrong it is up for sale again I now see them not being developed in the years I have left but you never know maybe the English heritage will have a change of heart and move on them but that I doubt it.

Dover History Pages- Registered: 12 Dec 2020
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victor matcham wrote:Looks like my report about the western hights was wrong it is up for sale again I now see them not being developed in the years I have left but you never know maybe the English heritage will have a change of heart and move on them but that I doubt it.
English Heritage can barely afford what they are already guardians of, let alone a massive liability like the Citadel !
victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
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I do not agree

Dover History Pages- Registered: 12 Dec 2020
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victor matcham wrote:I do not agree
You don't agree with the fact that English Heritage has run out of the money from their transitional pay-off when they became a charity and are currently making year-on-year losses? They can't afford the upkeep of Dover Castle let alone take on another massive liability which has no income !
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victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
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It would make a very big income if the work needed is done right.

Captain Haddock
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Wanna buy a bridge?
“I was gutted when my partners said they wanted to sell. It threw it into chaos. I was heartbroken,” he said. “But I am now urging somebody to please come and join me on this adventure. We’ve made a great start but there is so much more to do. I need someone who shares my vision.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2005393/dover-citadel-transformation-project"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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Chat GPT what is he really saying?
Mr de Min said: “I believe that it’s amazing that anyone let me loose with their money.
“My partners have now had enough of my fantasies and are selling. That’s business, I suppose, but I am so stubborn it won’t stop me. It’s up for sale at £15million, and we are open to offers so long as they are more than the investors put in plus some more money for me.
“I’ve put lots of other people's money into this. It could be whatever I can dream up to part the gullible & desperate from their money; but honestly whatever idea I have it will never be realised, but I will be very comfortable financially.”
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi