howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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"If upheld on appeal"
There's the rub.
I have noticed that on these very pages threads have begun warning/encouraging compliance with the law concerning Tax-Returns.
When those in receipt of benefits and pensions 'fail to comply' through no particular fault of their own the 'justice' meted out to them is no different than this tax case, is it?
Here we have an accountant, no less, pleading, "it worn't me m'lud wot done it".
Well no, Mr. Accountant, you certainly did not do as you were obliged to do.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Jan Higgins
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I have no sympathy with businesses big or small that do not get their returns in on time, unless there is a very good reason to be late. Having said that it is completely wrong that HMRC are waiting so long before telling the firms and fining them, what a nice little money earner for them.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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seems to me like a cash cow for government, they wouldn't get away with it against the conglomerates.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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They don't bother with the conglomerates Howard, they're too busy having dinner with them.
It is completely unfair that they hound small businesses, but not big companies.
Roger
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Well expressed there Peter. A little sad, fraught with...um....'technicalities', but on time.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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But who is the tongue and Mr. Glum aimed at ?
The last piece on that article sums up many small businesses difficulties and also applies to individuals:
"In the past you had tax inspectors who had the power to look at a case and make a reasonable and fair decision. But now you're left dealing with call centres where nobody takes ownership of an issue."
Roger
Keith Sansum1
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roger
i have to agree with you
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Thank You Keith.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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we do have a prob and you only have to look at the lady in the high street flower shop who is likely to walk if she is not helped in some way
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Do you mean the new flower-shop Keith ? The one that sells fruit and veg too ?
Does she have a problem with HMRC or business support ?
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i read that article, why the big surprise at the rent and business rate?
she would have known that prior to opening the shop.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I agree Howard. So it is the new shop ?
Business rates and rent have nothing to do with HMRC though.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i thought that hmrc set business rates and local authorities collected the money.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The Valuations department, a department of HMRC set the rateable value while the rate per pound of RV is set by the Treasury.
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'Rates' is a misnomer as the word implies you get something in the way of services for your money. It's purely a tax on business.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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roger;
i'm sure the lady i mention dosn't care who's fault it is'
but wants help
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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The lady would surely have known what the business outgoings would be prior to opening if Keith means the new shop.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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You are right Jan, she certainly should have done a business plan and considered things like costs and cashflow. That said she should make contact with the Chamber as our Chief Exec has a lot of experience helping out businesses on such matters. I will pass this on accordingly.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson