Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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It's like the public debt, Keith: Labour just kept building it up till it became impossible to service.
So too with Labour's mass immigration.
Brian Dixon
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and your solution would be alex.
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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Keith
as with so many journalistic pieces it is difficult to separate the truth from the desired message. It would be helpful to be able to put those quotations into context but I cannot find any attribution to source so we are left with what the journalist/editor wants us to read. I know that many schools, hospitals, social services departments and many private organisations have actively recruited from abroad. Do the agencies that provide this service count as 'search parties'?
It would also seem to be a policy that is being continued by the present government:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/14/agricultural-workers-ukraine-future-mayhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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there was an emotive piece in the mail that didn't actually focus on facts, just jumped on a one liner from lord mantelpiece.
couldn't really draw any conclusions from it.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Mark, there are work agencies operating in the UK who contact only employers and recruit and offer only Eastern Europeans.
In theory it is illegal, to the best of my knowledge. Would come under discrimination.
Apparently it's OK, though.
Don't ask me under which hypocritical EU law it's alright, but with the UK authorities it certainly seems an acceptable practice.
There was me thinking that work agencies who offer work in Britain must contact and recruit British people too, on equal and fair terms, and not just people from certain EU countries but not from Britain.
There must be a loophole that allows discrimination against British people in Britain for work agencies offering workers to employers in Britain.
Or perhaps there isn't and they just go ahead and do it because "the Government" allows it.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Alex, the various anti-discrimination laws are not there to protect the British, the English, white people, able-bodied people, the young, law-abiding people, heterosexuals or Christians. They are there to punish the majority for discriminating and empower the various minorities. To be strictly non-discriminatory I suppose every job ought to be advertised in 27 countries and 23 languages.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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no laws are actually broken if an employer advertises for people who speak polish for example.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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There are work agencies who advertise in Britain only for employers and offer only Polish workers living in the UK or in Poland, and who can be in the UK within 24 hours.
And there are employers in Britain who contact only work agencies offering Eastern Europeans and accept workers from these only.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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alex,there is a reason that farmers employ eastern Europeans,the reason is they would have to pay English workers higher rates of pay which will be passed on to the hard pressed consumer.so in short it comes down to higher wages = higher prices in the shops.
Keith Sansum1
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Thats quite a statement Alexander
where can i find these adverts?
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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nice music brian
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#14
The UK taxpayers are subsidising cheap employment from the EU
Paying non uk citizens Tax credits housing benefits and family allowances
Then we pay benefits to British workers that have been displaced .
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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kiethb,tents ,caravans on site.so no benefits paid of any kind.you do need to get out more kieth.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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no caravans in the folkestone road unless you include our beautiful portacabin that dr premnath has so generously donated.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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mostly at the places of work howard.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Wrong Brian as usual
The bed-sits of Margate Dover and Folkestone are full of them,
Have you seen caravans in the yards of the big factory employers of Dover
Or mass caravans in Tilmanstone ?
I think not.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yep,just behind the tree line kieth.
and besides it costs to much in transport costs to run minibuses between dover and planet thanet and other sites.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Benefits for non-UK nationals
Benefits you may be able to get are:
• Pension Credit
• Income Support
• income-based Jobseeker's Allowance
• Housing Benefit
• Council Tax Benefit
• Disability Living Allowance
• Attendance Allowance and Carers Allowance
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