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    agreed keith tony blair was a winner, he was lucky to have neil kinnock pave the way for him but still was the only person to lead the reds to power and keep them there.

    there is no room for sentimentality as he showed with the ditching of "clause 4", nothing wrong with it but the image that it threw up did not strike a chord with the public.

    brown and miliband are political pygmies, one lost them power and the other seems to be trying to make sure that they never regain it.

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