Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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If a new party is to govern Britain, Keith B, one that intends going straight, it should open up a review of some fundamental policies.
This in reply to your question, as I look at it:
1) Our Union Flag is Sacrosanct, it is Christian through and through, can never be reneged, and so this Party MUST recognise the Christian Faith as the One Faith of the British Isles, and can never give up the idea of England and Scotland being two equal Constituent Countries of the United Kingdom.
Wales ought to be considered equal to England and Scotland, and therefore no longer a Principality, but a Kingdom equal to England and Scotland.
The possibility should be given for Ireland to reunite and be a Constituent Kingdom of a new British Isles Constitution, equal to England, Scotland and Wales.
The next best option, if this is not accepted with general approval from all parts, is that Northern Ireland remain a Constituent Country of the United Kingdom and the Republic of Eire has reciprocal privileged relations with Britain, similar to how the situation is now.
Not everyone is aware that constitutionally the United Kingdom is, in fact, a UNION of three Kingdoms: England, Scotland and Ireland, each with their own Parliament..
2) Our Country cannot be headed by a private family, our Parliament cannot have a private family as its head.
We need NO head of State. No mortal person should be "the head of the State".
People who visit our Country on diplomatic missions, such as a member of government of another country, should simply meet with elected representatives according to their status ie the PM, Foreign Secretary, Chancellor etc.
Not everyone is aware that the Oath of Coronation requires the Christian Faith HAS TO BE the sole Faith of Britain.
It would be strange for UKIP, therefore, not to acknowledge this, while at the same time paying honour to the house of Windsor.
If UKIP wish to keep the monarchy and the present institutions of head of everything, that is not really the problem.
The problem I have is with the hypocrisy of not confirming that the Oath of Coronation requires the Christian Faith be Britain's only Faith. You can't have it both ways.
3) I have evidence that the queen has betrayed the British Constitution and the Oath of Coronation on various counts, one of which is giving royal consent to hand authority over Britain to foreign parliaments.
This is expressly forbidden in the Constitution. It is expressly forbidden by Law. It is expressly forbidden by the Oath of Coronation.
PS: some people insist we have no Constitution. We do, although you can also call it "laws" established in Parliament.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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every country has a head of state alex either a monarch or a president. i can see where you are coming from though you want the queen to be removed and tony blair instated in his rightful place as president.
Brian Dixon
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howard,stalin would do a better job.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I agree Alexander Treason has been committed
The handing over of power without the legitimate consent of the British public.
All the more reason to support a party that will bring back those powers to the UK
But the facts are Religion is being rejected by the majority of citizens
This should not be forced on the population it's a question of freedom of the individual
Maybe if the big Religion dealt with there own hypocrisies they may agene connect with there flocks
Our Christian & pagan history and values should be part of UK school teaching,
The Air brushing out of the past and our origins, and distorting the facts is a political scandal.
Keith Sansum1
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That has to be the strangest post for some time by alexander,
When you attend any christian church services the vicar or whoever leads all mention they wish the royals good health,
and what a good job they do
Good health to parliament in the hope they do well for the country.
Whilst I may have issues with the royal family as a body of people, like howard says the alternative is far more worrying
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Go for it Vic- if integrity is a vote winner - then you will get in!
Never give up...
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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"Our Christian & pagan history and values should be part of UK school teaching".
This, Keith, which you wrote, is an essential part of what I stand for, that at school in Britain, all children should learn our Christian history, and also our origins, including the Pagan beliefs as far as we can discern them.
If the State allows parents to deny their children to learn this, then the Country would be without Faith, without a Soul, and children would be deprived of their rights to know about Jesus Christ.
It's got nothing to do with forcing people, just teaching our Christian Faith in British schools.
And it has nothing to do with intolerance towards other religions. But British schools should teach the One Faith as part of the school education programme. With NO exceptions.
The reason being, we have no autochthonous populations that practice other religions. And our Constitution IS Christian, although, as already stated, not everyone realises this.
We as a Country have no authority to change the wording and the spirit of the Law established in Parliament that enshrines this in our written Constitution.
I cannot join a party that does not specifically acknowledge the Christian Faith as the One Faith that mus tbe taught in British schools as part of the education programme.
Guest 912- Registered: 5 Apr 2013
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Evening all. As the chairman of the Dover and Deal branch of UKIP I would like to personally wish Vic well for the coming election and will say that his years of experience will be missed. Should you be wondering why Vic is not standing as our candidate, I will just say that when people do not share the same opinion, sometimes it is better that they go their separate ways. Should anyone have questions relating to how UKIP is represented and run locally, I would be more than happy to answer to the best of my knowledge.
The future is what you make it. If you want a change, make it happen. Don't become a victim of procrastination. Live life to the full, always!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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welcome to the forum ian hope to hear more from ukip on the forthcoming election.
we have a few of your supporters on here.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Howard, we do not need a head of State.
As equals, no-one should be the head of the State.
As for receiving guests from other countries on State visits, a person elected once a year in Parliament could do this, such as the Speaker.
The idea is, everyone who is elected should have a specific function with a defined institutional power.
No one should be almighty-like, and ministers, soldiers and other members of State institutions should not have to swear an oath of allegiance to a mortal person.
For example, I would never stand as candidate MP if I had to swear an oath of allegiance to a mortal person once elected.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Hello, Ian. Just saw you after my last post.
Welcome to the Forum!
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Ah- welcome Ian-very interesting-a direct line to the radical UKIP!
Never give up...
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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mmmmmm intresting but wellcome ian.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Welcome ian,
good to see a representative with the balls to come on the forum
Get your tin hat on
Guest 912- Registered: 5 Apr 2013
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Thank you for the welcome.
The future is what you make it. If you want a change, make it happen. Don't become a victim of procrastination. Live life to the full, always!
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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I note that here in Dover West Division we have a UKIP candidate.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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john buckley, also of ukip was a member at one time. would be good to see him back.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Alexander
Your post 30 states on the one hand you are tolerant of other religions, yet go on to say only the christian faith should be taught in schools.
now just on that one subject, if your tolerant surely there should be a mixture of religions taught in schools?(that is if we believe religions should be taught in schools at all)
Just on that teaching religion in schools can be counter productive, i, like many went through the catholic system and i certainly wouldn't promote them, i know some people who have become active humanists through an upbringing in the catholic faith.,
So there are questions around if teaching religion in schools is a good thing.
I wonder now alexander how much out of context you will get this thread and my posting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, I'm not Catholic.
The Christian Faith in school should be taught entirely upon the Holy Scriptures, with no added doctrines.
All I am saying is, my views may not be agreed to by some or many others, but I won't ever join a political party that does not accept the One Christian Faith as the Official Faith of our Country.
That is all, Keith!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i don't think the electorate as a whole are bothered about religious affiliations in their politicians alex, most people with religious beliefs vote with their pockets in the forefront of their mind.
