howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#41
sensible stuff from phil, the truth is in the day to day operations.
whether we are members of the Eu or not, factories can grind to a halt with the slightest delay.
truckers know the the nuts and bolts of the system in operation much more than politicians.
must be all those yorkie bars that they eat.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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#42
Out on the road again, i'm afraid its a job i would-get bored at (lorry drivers) lonely in the cab.
but expect they get to see some nice places
Guest 686- Registered: 5 May 2009
- Posts: 556
#43
Very likely Keith but as a member of the great unwashed I don't necessarily understand the finer detail in order to make an informed decision one way or the other. I don't think I need to understand the fine detail but I do need sufficient information in an understandable form in order to form a valid opinion - as do all voters.
Any major changes to our status with the EU would have to be put to a referendum (unless you want a parliamentary blood bath) and for that to have any validity then the likes of us mere mortals need to have some basic facts that make sense - and preferably non-political!
Phil West
If at first you don't succeed, use a BIGGER hammer!!
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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#44
Yes phil i think i understand
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#45
rather innocent of you there phil.
all referendums are pre determined.
when mr wilson held one, leaflets through the door were 3 to 1 in favour, broadcasts on the box 3 to 1 in favour.
the press much the same.
what do you think that the vote was?
i am not against a referendum, just cynical about our leaders putting out scare stories, just to make sure that we reach the "right decision".
Guest 686- Registered: 5 May 2009
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#46
Howard: You hit a sore point with many truck drivers - the eejit behind the desk directing operations probably doesn't know his fifth wheel from his TIR cord and only knows what a truck looks like because there's a photo of one hanging in his office!! I'd be a very rich man if I'd had a pound for every time I've heard the phrase "but it's only two inches on the map!". Luckily I don't have that problem with my employer but I did have to point out to our customer why it was impossible to meet the same delivery time in London as we used to have in Dover!!
This sort of situation is nothing new where the people calling the shots have no idea what goes on at the coal face. And career politicians are no exception!!
Phil West
If at first you don't succeed, use a BIGGER hammer!!