Guest 706- Registered: 25 Oct 2010
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23 December 2010
12:5086172#1
If what I watched,on Panarama last night,about the four major supermatkets,is true then soon this country will be governed by Tesco.
Somewhere,each day,a council gives planning permission for one of the four to build.
Sweetened,mainly by Tesco,by promises of building,police stations,pharmacies,leisure centres etc.
I was saddened to see that Seaton,in Dorset is to get one.
It's such a lovely old town,with many individual shops in the sloping high street.
And plans for the first "Mega dairy" are going ahead.
I was so angry when the man,who runs one in America,said that they were only like any other money making industry.
Look at those cows eyes mister and tell me that they don't dream of green grass and blue skies!
I'm set to go back to vegetarianism.
Truly.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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23 December 2010
13:1786174#2
i saw the report but not the programme, tesco claim that the majority of their new builds are smaller convenience stores.
that will not give much cheer to the small retailers trying to survive.
i never use the extra large supermarkets, preferring to get in and out as quickly as possible when i shop.
tesco do seem to be all powerful, what council could turn a planning application down if they promise to donate a large sum for community use?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,247
23 December 2010
13:2486176#3
Its called a planning gain and as long as it is open and above board, fine.
I hate shopping full stop and do most of mine on-line. Whwen I pop to the shops it usually is for just the small odd item.
I do not like these small 'convenience stores' Tesco are setting up. They really are trying to muscle in to the territory of the small business. I will not use them if there is any other option.
Guest 706- Registered: 25 Oct 2010
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23 December 2010
13:2986177#4
You sre right,Howard. I think that it's those smaller ones that we should be worried about.
And if you think about it,if anyone offered hard cash for agreement of planning permission it would be seen as an out and out bribe. But promises of community aids not so it seems
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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23 December 2010
14:5486178#5
whilst i'm no supporter of tesco's and they may wel be the main offenders, the other big supermarkets like sainsburys etc are no better.
but it ciomes back to the age old argument locally.
this council has a policy of out of town shopping, which in itself is not a problem,
and has seen majpr stores such as tescos and even B and Q re locate
this has an effect on the town centre,
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Unregistered User
23 December 2010
15:1486184#6
Keith you are wrong.
This council does not have an "out of town" retail policy.
If it did I guarantee Whitfield business park would be full with retail and Dover town centre in a worst state than now.
The B & Q development paid for all the road infrastructure that has opened up the phase 2 development and allows public & public transport access to phase 1 i.e. Tesco.
Without B & Q's contribution phase 2 would not have happened.
Your memory is short or selective or both. I believe both.
The B & Q project was started by the late Peter Wells I believe you were a Cabinet member under his Leadership.
Stop conning Forum members.
Watty
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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23 December 2010
15:1986187#7
as you know paul i disagreed then because of the effect on the town centre
if peter were here today he would tell how lively our labour group meetings were
and differences of opinion
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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23 December 2010
15:1986188#8
you rose to the bait very easily there paul.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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23 December 2010
15:2186190#9
so howard
done all your xmas shopping?
aint seen yer about town for a while
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
23 December 2010
15:3286194#10
i love super markets the bigger the better.if planning got there act together the whole of dover could be a super sized supermarket.
Unregistered User
23 December 2010
15:3686196#11
Got the accurate statement out Howard.
Keith has come clean.
Watty
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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23 December 2010
15:3786197#12
have said it before paulw
never hidden it
with me you get it as it is
no hiding
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Unregistered User
23 December 2010
15:4386200#13
Keith , how would I know what you said in Labour meetings. You certainly did not say it at the time.
Even your current posting is contradictory.
Yes I support or don't disagree with "out of town" but yes I support "town centre".
Typical Keith.
Watty
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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23 December 2010
15:4586202#14
wrong paulw
as usual
but never mind
as you know i opposed it at the time as you resonded to my dissaproval but that fine if you want to hide
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
23 December 2010
15:4586203#15
To put a slightly different slant on the B&Q debate. I used B&Q about once every 6 months, I use Morrisons at least 3 times a week the only one to have 'lost out' is Netto although I still use them once a week. Morrisons must be better for the town than B&Q, I know my independent butcher thinks so as it has bought him extra customers.
BTW I hate Tesco with a passion, and yes they use community projects as softeners otherwise known as a bribe, which the smaller business just can not afford.
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Unregistered User
23 December 2010
15:5486206#16
Agree with you totally Jan.
Watty
23 December 2010
19:1486243#17
I hate Tesco, as you may know.....
They sucker towns in, then spit them out and tread on them before disembowelling them and putting their heads on a spike as a warning to other towns not to resist.
I hate Tesco.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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23 December 2010
19:5386249#18
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Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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24 December 2010
10:2786325#19
Well said,Bern.
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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24 December 2010
10:4586328#20
Bern
Unsuprisingly I agree with your views on Tesco. They are banned over here along with out of town shopping centres .The Co-op have a very large supermarket based in what was once the run down area of the town centre now the area is thriving with coffee bars , arts centre,art galleries and a plethora of arty-farty shops.It's great. The town centre is heaving with not only shoppers,tourists but bank workers,office workers and lunch time shoppers.Result is a thriving beating heart full of bars traditional and wine type bars,more chic coffee shops than you can shake a stick at,greasy spoons to expensive multi-cultural ethnic restaurants.
The States decided only to allow offices to open in town thus at lunch times they pour out of their offices looking for a bite to eat,do a quick shop or go for a jar.It's like the good old days of the High Street.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
