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  the point i was trying to make is that there are hurdles to overcome, we cannot just breeze in and do what we like. dealing with officialdom is not a problem if we talk to them in a way that we would like to be spoken to.
  
  we could have gone ahead and done clean ups of our local alleyways, then what?
  
  dozens of black bags, mattresses and assorted pieces of furniture gathered together, by talking to waste services over a period of time they arrrange for veolia chaps to come along at an appointed time on a saturday with a big truck and take it away.

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