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#21
Respect generally, these days, is sorely lacking. Does not need criticising, just improving.
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Terry Nunn
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#22
I'm sticking by my opinion. That is, that it wasn't necessary for the all black appearance of the the local news. Lets' face it, it had been covered by the national news in depth, there was only a tenuous Dartford connection anyway.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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#23
Hours of sombre music replacing all programming might have helped even more to dispel the impression of left-wing bias in the media, if it were not that the USSR got there first.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
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#24
The Iron Lady has passed away: that leaves us with a spineless Government.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#25
not actually true alex we have dave, george and nick!!
sorry i see what you mean now.
Brian Dixon
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#26
mmmm yes a jelly fish has more spine than those 3 put together.
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#27
Kath- you speak of respect. I'm afraid that endemic cynicism has destroyed any respect for any public figures be they religious leaders, establishment icons, or political figures. Their best 'friends' the media who by their own actions have lost much of their own credibility, have done this by exposing many of these people for what they are-just fallible(at worst depraved) human beings. It's a question of who can destroy who first in our government system. I suspect the young lady who is the junior police commissioner was stitched up by a competitor- hmmm- was that cynical?
Coversely if it was the press who revealed those networking bloomer tweets - is that so far removed from accessing somebody's texts? I think not- if we are to moralise here. Looks like the hacks are still out of control. .. so we need to know do we..?
Never give up...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#28
very perceptive post richard, respect is a two way street.
our politicians continue to disappoint us, captains of industry sometimes more so, until recently the royal family was a cross between a soap opera and daytime television - thankfully they have started to get their act together.
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#29
Thank goodness for HM the Queen-somehow she's held it all together- and turned it around by being totally beyond reproach and respected by everyone....now as you imply Howard this could be something to build on.
Never give up...
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#30
will jeramy kyle do,he will sort them out with a few dna tests etc.
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#31
A rounded view...
Margaret Thatcher left a dark legacy that has still not disappeared
Days before he died in 2003, Guardian columnist and Thatcher biographer Hugo Young wrote an epitaph for the prime minister who changed Britain forever
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-hugo-youngIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
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#32
I got as far as Bobby Sands, nobody sent him to his death he starved himself to death.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#33
if he hadn't starved himself to death his personal hygiene would have finished him off.
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#34
Exactly Howard, no loss to mankind
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#35
And the forth plinth in Trafalgar square Was being saved for ..........
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#36
"Given Thatcher's fondness for what she regarded as "Victorian values", it is not surprising that the press is full of alleged historical parallels. When Conor Burns declares that "she was a laissez-faire, Gladstonian liberal, in the proudest traditions of the Gladstonian Liberal party" (Old political wounds reopened and kindnesses remembered, 11 April), he is widely echoed by both left and right. There is a grain of truth in the comparison. The argument is that she rolled back the frontiers of the state in a way which was consistent with Gladstone's vision and achievements in office, particularly between 1853 and 1885, when he managed to reduce central government costs despite a considerable growth in the UK population and wealth.
However, the aims and policies of these two leaders diverged radically. Gladstone cut military expenditure, which Thatcher expanded by 50%. The contraction of the state over which he presided was more than compensated by the growth of local-authority functions and related costs - both of which he encouraged. By contrast, Thatcher demonised local government and undermined its autonomy. It was Gladstonian legislation which conferred on trade unions the privileged status Thatcher demolished from 1981. Last but not least, he fostered the rise of a professional, "public-sector" ethos in administration, government and education, in contrast to the Thatcherite idea that market values and mechanisms provide universally applicable criteria for rational choice.
Eugenio F Biagini
Sidney Sussex College, Cambridge"
And several other missives that could be of interest...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/14/thatcher-funeral-says-about-britainIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#37
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#38
Here is some more home truth on the Thatcher legacy:
This is how Britain's Economy went the way it did!:
"It all suggests an economy built on the shifting sands of what Margaret Thatcher liked to call 'economic modernisation'; excitingly inchoate sectors such as finance, property, and now digital technology, that encourage unsustainable booms with huge rewards for those at the centre and growing debt for the sidelined majority. As a nation, Britain has gone from being the workhorse of the world to contributing just 3 per cent of global exports. Manufacturing now accounts for 10.2 per cent of GDP; down from 25.8 per cent in 1979."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/factory-of-broken-dreams-the-demise-of-britains-textile-industry-is-leaving-behind-impressive-buildings-8206081.html
"unsustainable booms with huge rewards for those at the centre and growing debt for the sidelined majority."
Just about sums it up!