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    jan;
    im afraid on your last post i disagree
    low flying)(or any planes) are very much noticed,
    I have said before it was noticed the increse recently in low flying planes.
    not so sure i would ever get used to it.
    and as a very light sleeper its a concern.

    with regard to trains, this to i could never get used to, in fact i turned down house moves to areas where train tracks and trains went close by
    whilst we viewing one house the train went by and so did did the ornaments lol

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