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"At least 70 people have died after an eight-storey building collapsed on the outskirts of Bangladesh's capital, Dhaka."
"Another 700 are reported to have been injured in the building's collapse which involved several garment factories.
"Clothing factories are usually staffed 24 hours a day."
"Some workers complained that the building had developed cracks on Tuesday evening, triggering an evacuation, but they had been forced back to the production lines by their managers."
"The managers forced us to rejoin and just one hour after we entered the factory the building collapsed with a huge noise," said a 24-year-old worker."
"I am injured. But I've not found my husband who was working on the fourth floor,"
"The collapse stirred memories of a fatal fire in a clothing factory in November that killed 112 people and raised an outcry about safety in the nation's garment industry."
"Surviving employees said gates had been locked and managers had told them to go back to work after the fire alarm went off."
"The factory made clothes for Wal-Mart, Disney and other Western brands."
Here's the link:
http://news.sky.com/story/1082297/bangladesh-dozens-dead-after-building-fall
Any correlation to another thread?
Keith Sansum1
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terrible
we should be thankful we have at least kept some legislation to stop such practices in the UK
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, we don't have textile factories in the UK, it all comes from Bangladesh!
Jan Higgins
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Alexander there are plenty of textile factories in the UK. I remember Mary Portas showed one on TV that made underwear for her clothing line.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Oh dear Alexander
please find out the correct details before posting
I'v counted 112 factories
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, whatever you say, the fact is that just about everything that is manufactured, is imported. And it is imported from the Far East at cheap labour prices, about £1 to £1.50 a day.
I'm not talking of firms that produce clothes for the queen, Keith, or for the aristocracy, which may each employ ten people and are in the UK. I'm referring to 99.9% of manufacture, which is imported! Not the queen's private seamstress!
Just take a look around High Street in Dover if you dispute this.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Unfortunatly alexander you have fallen at the first hurdle, you stated there are none in the UK when there are,
I have no idea(nor time0) to find out where the UK industries sell there goods
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, I will not bother getting involved in one of your circular arguments.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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It could be important to your debate alexander, maybe the UK exports there goods?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i notice wal-mart and disney warrant a mention as sourcing from sweat shops - not for the first time either.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Imports and exports - that's how the World goes round. Without imports We have no computers, no internet, no medicines in fact without imports life shuts down. Having said that We export much less than We used to which is why are balance of payments deficit is so poor which is why We have to borrow so much which is why We all face a bleak future but to pour scorn on what is in effect international trade will get us nowhere.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Philip, there might be a small print somewhere that forbids unfair trade and commerce and unfair and unethical production and trading standards.
Then again there might not be.
But I believe that by banging on, one day Society will get there.
Perhaps one day people will look back in history at our present Society in a similar way that we look back at 17th, 18th and 19th century deportations to plantations belonging to wealthy British landowners in colonies and to the slave trade.
Perhaps an obscure person called Alexander D might even find a place in future's history books as an outspoken campaigner who outspokenly did what he thought was right and annoyed people of his day with home-truths.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Or in the future it might say there was an alexander d
didn't grasp peoples postingss but posted a lot lol
just a thought
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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"The building, in Savar on the outskirts of the capital Dhaka, housed at least four factories producing clothes for leading Western retailers." SkyNews
Currently, 175 workers have been found dead, many more are still trapped in the collapsed building.
Keith, this is what I think will happen:
at some point in the future, DC the PM will make a statement, announcing a policy, stating that he is in favour of not importing from cheap labour countries at unethical conditions.
He'll say that because he is a Conservative this is his firm belief.
He'll score political points, and promise to increase home-manufacture of textiles and other items.
Then Ed Milliband, about a week or a fortnight later, will "apologise" that Labour did not bring back manufacture to Britain during the government of New Labour, and will promise to do so under a "new" Labour government.
Points will be scored.
It will probably happen later, towards election time, to gain points. Political point scoring.
Just a thought. Watch this space....
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Alexander, what is wrong with using cheap labour overseas? That's the way developing countries, well, develop.
By insisting that We somehow boycott goods manufactured from these places all We do is end up behaving like imperialists and imposing our exceedingly dodgy ideas of how things should be done on those who wish to pull themselves out of the pit of poverty.
Remember, also, that if We were to buy only those goods produced in developed nations We would be demanding even more in an increase in wages and inflation would rocket because We would have to pay more for those goods.
Strangely enough this can also be applied to environmentalism where the greedy Westerners choose to exploit and rob developing nations by denying them much needed electricity and consigning millions to their death by way of the Wests' forbidding some countries to use DDT to combat malaria.
Instead they imposed environmentally right on bed nets which leftists insist are the way forward because they don't "hurt the planet".
Then there is the issue of growing biofuels which means increased starvation in poverty stricken countries when they could be growing food but, alas once again, this all in the name of saving the planet.
Of course certain fools who believe in the myth of fairtrade still carry on buying fairtrade tea and chocolate which only compounds the levels of poverty in Africa and other places.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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oh blimey philip
alexander wont like that!!
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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With you 99% Philip on that post. What are bed nets?
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Philip, in Government, indeed in Parliament, they couldn't care less how many people in Britain sign on, and how many young people sign on.
And the High Street chains couldn't careless either.
That said, people will represent their own interests and will find like-minded fellows to join with in furthering their own basic interests.
Unlike you, dear Philip, many people here in Britain are unemployed and really won't listen to your rhetoric on this issue.
They have a different situation to you, Philip.
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OK Philip, I'm fine Jack
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From Sky News:
At least 377 people dead.
"Wednesday's tragedy has sparked protests about the poor working conditions of workers who toil for as little as £25 a month to produce clothing for top international brands."
Elite Greedy Pigs?