howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The original thread has been hijacked but the issue of a possible Winter of discontent will not go away.
Been a few comments here about the unions suddenly flexing their muscles after decades of being docile. Our Charlie is railing about union militancy by British Airways cabin crew who earn a massive £12,000 pa basic wage but maybe the works are starting to turn as Chief Executives in big organisations continue to pay themselves bonuses whilst the staff have to accept austerity.
Keith Sansum1
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look at charlies page unions starting again to support there members
even Charlie suporters are saying why give a private company dosh(Southern rail) maybe if the govt didn't they might b inclined to sit round the table
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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no one wants the days of strikes but hopefully we will see unions/employers working together
but with threats like those from our Charlie on his f/book page will do little help
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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This may have already been said, but do you realise that the tax-payer and the employees are the only people losing money during the RMT/ASLEF Southern Rail strike? Govia (Southern Rail's parent company) has a contract in which the tax-payer gives them a while year's money up front to run the service, there fares then go to the exchequer. Obviously, during a strike, Govia's running costs reduce dramatically and the fares don't come in; additional to that, the strikers lose their day's pay.
Can someone explain why the RMT and ASLEF union members are being vilified?
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Brian Dixon
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government and rail bosses southern] making out that rmt and aslef the bad guys.while they [the government and southern] are unwilling to talk to resolve the issue.
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Brian Dixon wrote:government and rail bosses southern] making out that rmt and aslef the bad guys.while they [the government and southern] are unwilling to talk to resolve the issue.
Mr Dixon, you said in two sentences what I tried to say in many, many more. Thank you!
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Jan Higgins
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Strikes happen when the intransigent meet the pig-headed, thus nobody wins and as usual the innocent general public are inconvenienced the most.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Jan we disagree here
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Captain Haddock
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Here's what it is actually all about. Damn all to do with passenger safety. The usual lefty tossers trying to 'bring down the Government'. Whatever happened to that Mr Scargill?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/744753/Southern-strikes-RMT-union-boss-bring-down-Tory-government-action"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Do try to keep up Bob the union leader clearly has his own political agenda but the real issue is safety as evidenced on the original thread post no. 11.
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You cite the Express as the facts!
Oh, you are a naughty boy, Capt.
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that would be a first bishop lol
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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DO read Mc Nulty Report (6.9.1). Nothing to do with safety. Anyone who says so is either lying or a fool.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Oh dear Bob you do try to pass yourself as the great intellectual and the rest of us as knuckle draggers but that report was so vague about driver only trains and was designed to please civil servants who paid for it.
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Oh dear Bob hope you don't have any guards living in your ward
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Button
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I'm quite happy to close the railway carriage door myself if that would help - I used to years ago and never came to any harm. Come to think of it, I used to undo the strap to let the window open too.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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That's because Mr/MRS? Button in those days a clear policy was in place
the driver protects the front of the train
the guard the rear of the train in a clearly defined way
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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So how come there is not a single manufacturer of rolling stock in Europe which is manufacturing carriages with guard operated doors? The whole of Europe is wrong and half a dozen overpaid uniformed jobsworths on Southern Rail are right? I think not! Do get real.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Bob of course has aright to a view
but those within the RMT in his ward I'm sure will recall the last posting at election time
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