howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#1
all cordoned off, 2 police cars and an ambulance in attendance, hopefully not a case of lightning striking twice in the same place.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#2
this was the scene just before half two.
Guest 767- Registered: 30 Aug 2012
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#3
Oh dear, I think we can all guess what has happened here, again.
Guest 743- Registered: 28 Feb 2012
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#4
It's such an avoidable shame, I've lost count the amount if times I've contacted the police regarding drug users in there when I've needed to carry out works each time they are to busy to respond last being a 2 / 4 Hour lead time as much as I know these people can't be stoped surely if the area was patrolled more or even things put in place to try to deter then it wouldn't happen, plus I Dred to think what's its impact is on tourism or kids wanting to use w.cs and for me a big lad with rocker beard
it's intimidating when there's a Cronus of 5 plus outside drinking it up the wall.
Although as I know this incident maybe totally unrelated to our local drug / alcoholic users
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#5
hopefully the worst has not happened again, i sometimes wonder what percentage of the people who enter the establishment do so with the intention of passing water.
Guest 767- Registered: 30 Aug 2012
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#6
Drug abuse in Dover is a far bigger problem then most people realise, toilets are a 'safe haven' for all who use, we must not pretend that it doe's not happen, instead we should we work to help those trapped by by it. I understand that many of us choose not to use these toilets (whilst we complain against the closeing of public toilets)
IF someone has died then we need to look towards the cause, the supply, and all the the other causes for that mothers child to end up
dead in a public toilet.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#7
i doubt that there was a fatality yesterday or there would have been notices put up by the police asking for information phil.
dover has much the same drug problem as anywhere else, the problem will not end until there are serious prison sentences handed out or the products are legalised.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#8
Drug pedlars in Saudi Arabia are without exception executed by beheading. Possession of a small amount of weed earns you 2 years in the nick. A small amount of class A earns you 10 years hard labour. That contributes to a remarkably drug-free environment.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#9
Sounds quite reasonable Peter.
Roger
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#10
Yep, I'd borrow that law from Saudi, drugs are the scourge of society, just look at these poor wretches roaming round the town like zombies. Of all the crazy arguments I hear the one that wants to legalise drugs is the barmiest.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#11
most police chiefs want them legalised, they and the border agency are fighting a losing battle costing the taxpayer a fortune.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#12
Impose the Saudi regime and the problem is solved
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#13
if only david,to many soft in the head dogooders about,....................hang on just thought we could dish out the same for them to.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#14
Guest 878- Registered: 8 Feb 2013
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#15
What's so barmy about the idea of legalising drugs? It's high time all enforcement authorities realised they are fighting a losing battle. Of all drugs seized in the UK by police it accounts for about 0.1% of the overall market.
Most people have a specific reason they are turning to drugs. Slapping a criminal record and two years in the nick for essentially a petty, antisocial offence is the barmiest idea i've ever heard.
jamierose
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#16
fully agree jamie, we get these triumphant photos and comments from the border agency and police after a success but they have little effect on street sales.
the small dealers get their collar felt whilst the major players continue to thrive.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#17
not good news just heard from jamie rose of the express that a young chap is in a critical condition in hospital and it was drug induced.
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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#18
It was Terry Penfold, you will identify him by his use of crutches. I could tell you Terrys story, one of lifes victims, just waiting for the inevitable phone call has hung like a dark shadow over his family for years.
Whatever the outcome, it is a waste of a life.
He is my brother-in-law.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#19
sorry to hear that lesley, i never knew he took drugs just had him down as a drinker. i think we forget sometimes the effect on the families that they come from.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#20
Legalising something that is currently illegal (like drug dealing) because the fight against it is a lost or losing one, is like saying let's legalise burglary, rape or child abuse - we're not winning those fights either.
Roger
