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Thomas PAY aged 9, and William BACK aged 10, at Dover Quarter Sessions - (7 line report) - both charged with stealing - both sentenced to 14 days, and to be whipped every morning.
(Dover Telegraph 18 April 1846 p.8)
Aaron WALKER was whipped in the Market Place on 22 November 1844 (Dover dates)
RUN AWAY: and left his family of three children chargeable to the parish of Hougham near Dover, Richard CLARK a travelling man by trade a chair-bottomer, aged 50 yrs and upwards, about 5'5" high of a reddish complexion, wears his own hair which is red and has a remarkable red beard. Whoever will apprehend him or give information to the parish officers of Hougham so he may be apprehended shall receive a guinea reward by applying to the said parish officers. (Kentish Gazette 22-26 Sept 1786 p.1)
Prize-Winning DOG: Champion Landseer Newfoundland dog "Molly of Dover" (PHOTO) - owner Mrs FORSTER; details of prizes (Dover Express 7 Jul 1916 p.8)
Squier's Bazaar: Thomas SQUIER of the sign of the Rocking Horse, 23 Snargate Street, Dover (toy seller) has acquired "very large assortment of British and Foreign Toys etc" for sale at the Dover Fair
(Cinque Ports Herald, 20 Nov 1825 p.1 col.4)
also: SQUIER & Son, 21 Snargate Street, Dover: stocks of cricket bats, balls and wickets (Dover Telegraph 1838 p.1 col.4)
Dover Harbour Work in 1580s:
Robert STICKELLS ( - 1620) Appearing to be a mason by trade, the surviving records show him to have been acting as an architect, clerk of works and naval engineer. In the 1580s he was one of the "masters of the work" then in progress at Dover Harbour, his main task being raising rocks by barrel and chains and floating them to a jetty in the process of construction. Stow's "Chronicle" records that in 1595, "master Stickells the excellent architect of our time" constructed a small pinnace that could be taken to pieces and reassembled. This was launched in Tower dock "but there came no good of it." In 1595 the Earl of Derby recommended Stickells as a candidate for the Surveyorship of the Queen's Works. In fact he had to make do with a subordinate clerkship of the works, which he held from 1597-8 until his death. From 1598-9 he was stationed at Richmond, where in 1605-6 he designed a new lodge in the park of which survive drawings. He died in May 1620. In his will be describes himself as "a citizen and freemason of London" living in the parish of St Olave, Southwark."
(from "A Biographical Dictionary of British Architects 1600-1840 by Howard Colvin)
Under HARBOUR:
The Dover Humane Society are building a house for the joint purpose of being a station for their Life Boat and apparatus, as well as a receiving house, which is erecting in the Bay near the York Hotel, a most eligible site" (Kentish Gazette 22 Jan 1839 p.4 col.4) in drafts
ANTEDILUVIAN MONSTER EXPOSED:
"A mass of chalk of several thousand tons weight, detached itself from Shakespeare Cliff at Dover a few days ago. Fortunately, no one was near the spot at the moment of its fall. The vertebrae of some antediluvian monster has been exposed in the cliff, which will afford a rich subject for geological investigation" (Kentish Gazette 5 February 1839 p.3 col.1)
DOVER - THE ANCIENT TOWN HALL:
"A subscription is opened at Dover to finish the ancient town-hall. The estimated cost is about £16,000. The grand picture of the Duke of Wellington is affixed in the hall; and leave was obtained of the council at their quarterly meeting on Tuesday to place it by a portrait of Her Majesty, should her royal sanction to a sitting for the purpose be obtained." (Kentish Gazette 12 February 1839 p.3 col.2)
GRAND FANCY DRESS BALL: "The grand fancy dress ball took place in the Assembly rooms at the theatre, on Thursday evening and was attended by nearly 200 of the principal county families and visitors. The room was very tastefully decorated and brilliantly illuminated. Mount's Canterbury quadrille band and the band of the 90th Foot were in attendance. The arrangements were in every respect admirable."
(Kentish Gazette Oct 15 1839 p.3 col.3, "Dover")
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Kath I liked this bit , the old ways need to return
Thomas PAY aged 9, and William BACK aged 10, at Dover Quarter Sessions - (7 line report) - both charged with stealing - both sentenced to 14 days, and to be whipped every morning.
(Dover Telegraph 18 April 1846 p.8)
Aaron WALKER was whipped in the Market Place on 22 November 1844 (Dover dates)
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Cliff falls , Dock works , Dog shows not a lot has changed Kath but thankfully the whipping of children has
a fascinating read, where would the York Hotel have been?
Audere est facere.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i those days whipping was done in the morning, nowadays it is done to blue councillors only in the evening.
couldn't resist that one.
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Flogging may not be the worst that can happen, but best to be careful what you wish for...
John Bibby, one of 214 convicts transported (to NSW) on the Waterloo, (Convicted):11 March 1833 at Chester Quarter Session.
Joseph Bibby, one of 300 convicts transported (to Tasmania) on the Aurora, (Convicted):18 June 1835 at Manchester Barracks Court Martial 18th June, 1835
Richard Bibby, one of 175 convicts transported (to NSW) on the Morley, (Convicted):November 1816 Middlesex Gaol Delivery November, 1816
P.S.
I could have saved my time by going here first...
http://www.convictrecords.com.au/convicts/bibbyIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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they seem to have missed out keith, probably a clerical error.
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Should have whipped them before they left tom.
tom you old liberal
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MartinP -
A.F. PAYN, 'opposite the sea: York Hotel and Posting House and Wine and Spirit Merchant, Dover
(Kent Directory, Dover l837)
Anthony Payn(e) was a freeman of Dover in the 1802 listing.
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and this reference: to York House/(Hotel)
Mr. PAYNE, of York House Dover. Re: Mails (Kentish Gazette 30 Dec l785 p.l)
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Brian Dixon
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those two young lads certainly got PAY BACK didnt they.
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Brian
They probably nicked some doddering old do-gooders pocket watch.
In today's justice system, they would be sent on a taxpayers funded holiday adventure week.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Sounds like Tom Brown ( Eton ) School Days...............
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i seem to remember that the story had a character called flashman.
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Does anyone know what became of the antediluvian mammoth?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yeah,it got a pc and joined dover forum.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think it may be time for paul to open a seperate surreal forum.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Well, I never heard of the find before, thought it might be documented somewhere in a museum. Does Kath have any further information on the outcome of the discovery of that creature?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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@ howard.
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The vertebrae of some antediluvian monster has been exposed in the cliff, which will afford a rich subject for geological investigation" (Kentish Gazette 5 February 1839 p.3 col.1)
What's so funny?
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This is as close as I could get Alexander...
http://www.dover.ukfossils.co.uk/Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.