Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
20 January 2010
09:4138343#21
Well i do hope that people who attend the meeting will read the statement from the Council Leader hopefully this will be available for all to read .It is quite clear that the Dover people will not pay twice unlike the People of River and Sandwich .
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
20 January 2010
10:4538348#22
Sue I wish you would not keep on about River,none of us have to live in River we have a parish council they are the ones who add on the cost of the looes,but as the looes keep geting done over by Vandals I think they should be locked up and only open when there is events over there,and when the footballers etc use them they sigh for a key and then after they hand the key back and that they must all be clean before they do that.i would not mind paying to use the looe each time if they are nice and clean.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
20 January 2010
17:4838370#23
Vic you miss the point River Parish council raise the precep for thing such as the PCSO ,River Rec etc .Dover residents donot pay for this however we pay for their PCSO ,and the parks .Dont you understand double rating .
Its got nothing to do with vandelism to the toilets in the rec.In any case every time that happens we pay and currently we pay for any vandelisimn in the toilets in the town .Sorry Vic you have not been in politics long enough to understand the double rating and capping
If you see Barry W tonight he will explain it to you .
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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20 January 2010
21:2838387#24
Sue I have been in politics in Dover longer than you have lived in Dover.I do not mind paying some for the use of the looes in the town centre,just to point out I have only once used the one in River.I understand about capping and double rating both have been about along time.You also use the looes in the Town more than the one at River so why should you not have to help pay for them.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
- Posts: 3,391
20 January 2010
23:1438396#25
SUE
You probably are the one missing the many points being made,
Just to touch on a few
1; I presume then If the Town council were to take over completely the running of
the toilets in Dover then the District council costs at present on toilets will reduce
by that amount in the District council tax
2; The town council has been very responsible not just about the toilets but also
about the services they want to consider running.
Costing are required.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
20 January 2010
23:2138403#26
The costings re the toilet were given .You dont understand budgets either do you .A cost cutting exercise has to take place .The money is not coming in enough to balance the Revenue budget.You cannot as the previous administration diid keep drawing on the reserves .
It seems very quiet on here I thought someone would have posted chapter and verse .
If DTC dont take on the toilets then for DDC to continue running them which I feel is a basic requirment something else will have to be cut .
I have an idea where those cuts would be made .
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
- Posts: 3,391
20 January 2010
23:2438405#27
SUE
In the real world,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
So lets have your suggestions on what could be cut
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
20 January 2010
23:2638406#28
So you have been in politics forty years than Vic .Well I started in politics when i was a teenager and as Im a few years older than you I think I m ahead on years .
How long were you a councillor and how many elections have you helped in .I started in politics in Essex .then Slough and first stood for the DDC in the early eighties County as well .
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
- Posts: 573
20 January 2010
23:2838407#29
Sue, I don't remember the previous administration losing one million pounds of reserves by investing our money in Icelandic Banks.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
20 January 2010
23:3038409#30
quite right susan, i doubt that victor has ever had to carry those heavy buckets from the cesspit to the well like you had to.
some people dont know that they are born.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
20 January 2010
23:3338410#31
THey did not have much mponey left to invest .The current administration have had to watch the pennies sorry for the pun .The difference between the two parties is one will spend spend and keep every one happy whilst the other one keeps an eye on budgets and is not frightened of making tough decisions .
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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20 January 2010
23:3338411#32
Sue I said Dover and I was with the blues on their committee in the 1960s.I have no wish to say anymore about it.I would go on the say any other ward in Dover and I do not think you would have lasted that long.Sorry but some times you bring the best out of me.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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20 January 2010
23:4438412#33
OK
Will wait to for Sue's reply then maybe even respond
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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21 January 2010
08:4638422#34
Dave1 - no they didn't, but there was ( I believe) a £3 1/2 million black hole in the accounts when they were voted out.
Sue is right about the two parties; Labour locally and Nationally are happy to spend all the money and leave office with massive holes in the accounts.
Fiscal responsibility should be the order of the day and it has been since the Conservatives took over in 2003.
Services have never been cut and most have been improved and I still maintain that if DDC are NOT providing a service, the residents won't pay for it.
Roger
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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21 January 2010
09:0538423#35
Have added some pictures and a report from last nights event ..running now on the frontpage.
Good turnout.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
- Posts: 3,205
21 January 2010
09:1238424#36
Dave it is this administration that has £1 million invested in Iceland,not the previous one.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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21 January 2010
09:1538425#37
Cllr Collor Cllr Watkins were at the Scruity meeting at DDC last night where we discussed the toilets,we wanted to know who made the decision,how,and why,the only member of the public was our reporter from the Mercury Graham Tuthill,and I think what he has to say in next weeks Mercury could be revealing.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
21 January 2010
13:1938434#38
john
you are doing a victor on us, do we really have to wait a week for this knowledge?