Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Vic Matcham wrote:Just maybe then the same should be done to us,
Not a bad idea for those that feed these pests, then the birds might return to their natural habitat.
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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Vic Matcham wrote:Just maybe then the same should be done to us,
Good idea Vic, I can think of a few I would like to see culled, starting with one or two on here!
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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None so daft they cannot see what a disturbance they are.
Guest 3313- Registered: 21 Jun 2019
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I feel sorry for people who are so worn down by the drudge of life they do not appreciate these resourceful, clever birds. Maybe some of those humans who who do not wash their hands, use tissues, spit and drop food in Dover can rethink their own activities. Move away if you do not like seagulls. The squashed up beach as a result of the Western Docks Revival has taken some of their feeding ground/water (used to be many crabs there etc) and will take a few years to stabilise. I no longer have a quiet corner of the beach where I can watch bird activity because of a slab of concrete. Also enough chicks perish for natural reasons.
Martyn Webster- Registered: 18 Nov 2017
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I would suggest a re-reading of my original post of 3rd August last year to give this matter sensible context again.To suggest that those who do not like seagulls should move away is as ridiculous as it is impracticable.It is a now proven reality that the herring gull has become a scavenging land bird with multiplying colonies established well inland.There are many researched reports that have confirmed this as well as parliamentary debates on the subject.It does not take rocket science to work out the proliferation of numbers in the coming years for birds that should be out at sea rather than on land.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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The UK's Herring Gull population is actually less than half of what it was some 50 years ago, and it is still declining. This is why the Gull is Red Listed. It isn't rocket science to work out that the bird is attracted to urban areas by the consumption-obsessed, wasteful, throwaway, couldn't-care-less-'cause-it's-what-I-want social and economic imperatives that drive the human populations that live in them.
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Martyn Webster- Registered: 18 Nov 2017
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It has been reported that Paris,a two hour drive from the sea, is currently in a flap as hordes of hungry seagulls descend on that city.
A resident is quoted in an article in the Daily Telegraph of Friday 9th August "It was a horrible noise,like someone being tortured or kittens being strangled-something between laughing and crying.This wasn't the distant sound of seagulls by the sea-it was more like hyenas fighting for the same prey.First we had the heatwave,then a wave of mosquitoes and now it's seagulls.As well as their cries they wake us up hopping around our skylight on the zinc roof".
Perhaps those of us who have to contend with this ordeal constantly should write to the affected residents of Paris and invite them,the human inhabitants,that if they do not like such a nuisance,they should "move away".
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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the simple answer is to stop feeding them with left over fast food,.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Martyn you forgot to add all the other remarks that seagull lovers like to quote at us, my favourite or should I say stupidest is we have taken all their fish.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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#27 Ordeal? Oh please. OK, they can be a bit of a nuisance when protecting their young for a weeks in the summer. But don't all animals do that? If we could only manage our waste a bit more effectively (both individually and through our elected authorities) then even you would have no reason to bleat so incessantly about them.
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Judith Roberts- Registered: 15 May 2012
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I agree that better management of waste should be a priority Ray. I also think there are far too many people in Dover who feed seagulls, pigeons and foxes. Their intentions are good but misguided.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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On Thursday last (rubbish collection day here) herring gulls had torn open a domestic rubbish bag and spilled most of its contents over the road and pavement. The bag had been placed next to a bin, but not in the bin. The neighbour outside whose house most of the rubbish had ended up knocked on the door of the house the rubbish had originated from. She raised some sleepy head, and both proceeded to stare at the rubbish in the road. Later they were joined by another neighbour, and all three then stared at the rubbish in the road. The three then returned to their respective houses, left the rubbish where it was, the bin men came along, collected the domestic rubbish bag (with very little left in it by this time) and left the rest in the road.
It's clear the herring gulls were to blame for this.
Perhaps MW might like to give us his slant on the military industrial complex, Dickens, muesli, LED bulbs, hip replacements, reality tv shows, spooks, the decline of the english murder, open toed sandals (with or without socks), Freud, Brexit, witch trials, paracetamol, replacement sash windows, whether poetry or the short story is the perfect literary art form, baseball caps, lasagna, Jeffrey Epstein, toast, German Idealist philosophy, the weather, unicorns or Schumann (Robert or Clara).
I get his thing about 'seagulls'.
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TheThinWhiteDuke- Registered: 7 Jul 2016
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Triggered. See previous post.
I was downtown tonight and could not believe the racket one of them was making. Just how they can squawk (read: SCREAM) so loudly and for so long from seemingly just one intake of breath... ?
Incredible lung capacity and breath control these fu***rs have.
Would put Freddie Mercury to shame.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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TheThinWhiteDuke wrote:
I was downtown tonight and could not believe the racket one of them was making. Just how they can squawk (read: SCREAM) so loudly and for so long from seemingly just one intake of breath... ?
Incredible lung capacity and breath control these fu***rs have.
Would put Freddie Mercury to shame.
Equally, try singing "It's Only Make Believe" (Conway Twitty, Glen Campbell et al). It would be a challenge for even the most vociferous and pulmonarily well-endowed seagull, if only someone would train the buggers to sing.
I know.
I tried it once and turned blue.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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A recent deterrent I saw on TV was to stare at them. Do not bother, I tried it the day on one who was after the food on the bird table, the B thing out stared me as I gave up after several minutes.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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The thing is, JH, it has to be the right kind of stare. A bit of mimicry helps. Stand at a right-angle to the bird, jut your head forward and stare out of the corner of your eye. That should do it. If not, at least it'll give the neighbours something to worry about.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Surely no birdbrains on here? We're all much more reasonable when it comes to 'seagulls'.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus