you're right roger, paul holt of white cliffs countryside partnership led the 7 of us around giving an informative and entertaining commentary on what was around us and the history. i only saw 2 other people on the site.
here we have the oddest couple i have seen for a while.
hopefuily someone will remind me of the name of this shrub, the berries of which have more vitamin c than oranges and are now used in some of our finest restaurants