Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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19 February 2011
17:3493339After being got at for posting a recent election result in Tonbridge I thought I would bring you another this time from the Tory Stronghold of Romney Marsh.KCC Election.
Election Result 2011.......................................................Election Result 2009....
Con.......2222....................................................................3107.........................Lab.........748......................................................................446.........................
Lib..........479......................................................................872.........................
UKIP.......420.....................................................................1573........................
Ind..........238......................................................................442........................
Shepway First Did not Stand..................................................243........................
Once again the same trend Tories down Lib down what happened to UKIP Lab up!
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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19 February 2011
17:3693340Not sure what happened there,line got very long.
Lab 2011......748.............2009 ...........446.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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19 February 2011
18:2893350a glance at those figures shows the turnout to be roughly half that of 2009, worrying for all parties.
Ross Miller
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19 February 2011
18:4793355Did Vic stand?
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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19 February 2011
18:5193357Johm, once again the Conservatives gave Labour a thrashing total and compete!
As for the turnout, Howard, yes, apathy is definiitely prevailing on election day!
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19 February 2011
18:5793360John I'd be more worried about your recent KCC gain.
A mere 130 vote majority in what was one of your safest KCC seats in Kent prior to 2009 does not bode well.
As the Lib Dems bombed because of their paper candidate, you should really worry.
Watty
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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19 February 2011
19:0093361Alex once again deliberately or for some other reason you miss the point - this is a seat Labour was never expected to do well in far less win yet they were the only party to increase their share of the vote.
Surely John's point is percentage change in the votes for each party
Con down 28.5%
Lab UP 67%
Lib Dem down 47%
UKIP down 73%
Ind down 2%
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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19 February 2011
20:0593384Sure, Ross. With 700 odd votes, Labour got half of what UKIP got in 2009!
19 February 2011
20:1293385So, how should we celebrate UKIPs loss of 73% of their votes?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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19 February 2011
20:2593388UKIP did not do well, but we could not get a local person to stand ,so it goes like that some times,but again we did not do well,but not a good turnout was it.?
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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19 February 2011
21:4693406Alexander - I have no time for any of them - as i think they are all a bunch of charlatans, mountebanks and pantywaists
But your mob lost almost three quarters of your vote and slipped below Labou in a seat where you should be challenging the Tories
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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19 February 2011
22:2893409Ross, I am carrying out a duty here in Dover that has been assigned to me by members of various political parties who have united in a cause called The Pledge.
It also includes UKIP. It is part of what I see as cross-parrty common sense, where the cause unites people from different parties.
I doubt UKIP should challenge the Tories as a party, as it would mean campaigning against a number of very sensible issues that the Government nationally, and also local Government, are working on.
Strategy prescribes that the vote must not be split, and that is to prevent Labour turning the wheel back. Of-course one can challenge the Government on individual issues, but certainly not by putting up a blanket-opposition, which would be reckless.
On the whole, the Government deserves encouragement, and we must continue along some important lines that have been set. Hence I won't be challenging the Tories. To split the vote could have disastrous consequences.
Romney Marsh is an example of many people turning away from the ballot-box, as we saw recently in Dover, Oldham East/Saddleworth and Seven Oaks or there abouts.
What I tried to point out here is that Labour has not convinced anything near a majority to vote for them, which means that the vast majority of people - considering also those who did not vote - have no intention of turning back. We must go forwards, the pathway is surrounded by marshes, but it's not easy to get out of the shambles in which we got stuck.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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19 February 2011
22:3693411I must point out that no one has been assigned here in Dover or anywhere by UKIP over the Pledge ,UKIP are supporters of Pledge and members have have done just that, but that is all.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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19 February 2011
22:4393412The Pledge really does demonstrate what a bunch of power hungry careerists, mountebanks and charlatans politicians of the centre and right are. Your "Pledge" is nothing more than a fancily dressed up electoral pact which denies the electorate real choice and in fact appears to be predicated on the belief that the electorate cannot be trusted to make choices.
It is truly bigoted of any of you who have signed up to this to soil the word and concept of democracy
Shame on all of you have signed up to such a manipulative piece of twaddle
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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19 February 2011
23:0193418Ross, I doubt you know what The Pledge is, as it is the complete opposit of what you described. It is to enable people to make a choice by expressing their vote on EU membership.
Vic, the Pledge Team gave me a mission to carry out in Dover, if you don't believe me, I can let you have the proof.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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19 February 2011
23:0493420The Pledge team have told that to anyone who wish,s to put out their leaflets,but again they have nothing to do with UKIP or as far as I know anyother party.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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19 February 2011
23:0693422Ross that is just your view,I do not agree with it and you do not have to support Pledge no one is holding a gun to your head.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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19 February 2011
23:0893423Vic, the Pledge Team got my name from an online UKIP petition I signed over a year ago for Britain to leave the EU.
Also, Mr Paul Nuttal UKIP MEP sent me an email in November 2010 to join The Pledge campaign.
Then the Pledge head-quarters contacted me, and recently they have done so again, and they informed me that in Dover there are no other people carrying out the duty that has been assigned to me.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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19 February 2011
23:0893424Of course it is my view Vic
I subscribe to the Groucho Marx view of clubs - I wouldnt join one that would have me as a member
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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20 February 2011
00:1893433It is not a duty,you just wish to do it. Again what you are doing has nothing to do with UKIP.