Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Gary#17
I fail to understand the logic of the young man who was was happy to explain his actions to onlookers after slaughtering that poor soldier. I would never give him the doubtful accolade of being a terrorist, he and his accomplice just evil bloodthirsty murderers who attacked an unarmed man.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
It is a warning to us all these people are stiill out there
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
may be a policy of shoot to kill might work,cheaper than the death penalty.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The 9mm solution has its merits, but in this case it was what these monsters were after along with the publicity and they were willing to die for that.
Publicity for their vile cause was what they wanted and they certain are getting it.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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As much as I hate the idea of censorship is it time the Al Qaeda and various the other fanatical terrorist websites were blocked, it appears these fanatics are indoctrinated through reading these websites.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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No, Jan, they are indoctrinated in meetings and seminars in the UK, in HM prisons, and on London's streets, by radical hate-preachers protected under multi-culti laws, and, when all else fails, by the European human rights law.
They are known to the Police, who are constantly uncovering plots to blow people up, but sometimes the odd one slips through the net and commits an atrocity.
If it wasn't for the Police and MI 5 and MI 6, bombs would be going off regularly in Britain.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
We do have a problem jan on the freedoms in the country, on the one hand we want our freedom of speech, on the other people like terrorists use it to there own ends
its a difficult one
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Freedom of speech is not a licence to preach violence.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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"Freedom of speech is not a licence to preach violence."
Is this statement one word too long? Should it not be, "Freedom of speech is not a licence to preach." If the word 'violence' is necessary, is the word 'preach' the right one?
What about 'promote'? What about 'normalise'? Is not television, 'violence' from end to end, and football much the same?
"The director and star of the grisly follow-up to Drive talk to Henry Barnes about playing God, staying out of fights and
making ultra-violence sexy. Only God Forgives, which also stars Ryan Gosling and Kristin Scott Thomas, had its premiere at the Cannes film festival and was given a five-star review by Peter Bradshaw"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/video/2013/may/23/only-god-forgives-nicolas-winding-refn-video-interviewIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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[not that I know where either of us would find hairs to split...]
So, the main failing here is lack of sophistication. What any and all should preach is peace, and even the odd mention of redressing a deficit. For this is the mainstream method of going about meting out violence and causing harm.
Violence, like fraud, is a thing only other people do.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
i watched that pillock of an imam on newsnight yesterday stating that though he was shocked at the murder he could understand why his fellow muslims felt that way.
is he not aware that the majority of muslims deplore violence and terrorism?
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Islam's Achilles heel is that there is no central doctrinal authority, no Pope, no Archbishop of Canterbury, to whom the rank and file can relate. There is therefore little discipline, and Muslim elders look on in frustration as the agenda is hijacked by hotheads.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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not helped by the authorities here in some cases who tread too carefully. the elders of the finsbury park mosque went to the police when a radical cleric commandeered the mosque and spread the word of violence and terrorism.
no response of course, not wanting to offend minorities.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Too much pc affecting our pcs........
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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And a PC who does anything which could possibly have (ahem) inter-community repercussions has to sit at his PC and make a PC report to his PC equality and diversity managers.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
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I absolutely back bringing back the death penalty, to be applied upon being found guilty of a) Treason, b) Murder of any serving military personnel or emergency services whilst engaged on active duty, c) Murder of any child, d) Violent Rape (that carried out at gunpoint/knifepoint) and for pre-meditated murder (as opposed to what might be termed as a crime of passion).
Paedophilia I'd like to include, but that is a very emotive subject and one that requires very careful consideration. Non-violent rape, whilst despicable, can be open to abuse and false allegations and so I wouldn't include it.
Oh, and I wouldn't have a 'Death Row' - sentence would be carried out within 48 hours and wouldn't be subject to appeal.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Don't remember ever seeing you in Chop Square in Riyadh in the past, Paul?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
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Blink and you missed me Peter.
I've never had a fence to sit on...
Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
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I'd also bring back Prison Hulks (and no, that's not in jest!).
