howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Thinking on it I reckon he was misquoted Reg and referred to rents not rates.
Judith Roberts- Registered: 15 May 2012
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I think he must have meant reduced rents, although paying rates on just the shop rather than the whole building would also reduce overheads for new businesses. It would be great for small and start up businesses to be in the town centre. People like to use independent and specialist shops, but are often too busy to seek them out and go for the easy option of supermarket and online. A selection of these shops in the town centre would make shopping in Dover much more attractive.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Remember the only money the Town Council, DDC or the Government has is money they have already stolen from us. If they can't find anything sensible to spend it on then their first move is to stop stealing so much rather than getting people with mad schemes to 'bid' for it.
As for 'relief' on business rates - just where further would you like to see services cut due to lack of finances when everyone and his dog is already whining about so called austerity?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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Didn't Dover town centre get a million quid a while back? I have lost track of the millions that have been spent propping Dover up. The Discovery Centre, the big screen etc...
Is it just not simply the fact that Dover town has now become an important port but not a visitor destination. It just seems like good money is being thrown after bad when the money could be used in other parts of the district which do generate tourism and footfall.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The million quid was National Lottery dosh and has to be spent on certain designated areas of Dover over a 10 year period. It is intended to be spent in small amounts at a time on projects that local people want.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Jack Heart wrote:
It just seems like good money is being thrown after bad when the money could be used in other parts of the district which do generate tourism and footfall.
Jealousy raises it's head by the sound of that comment. There is more to any town than tourism, the needs of the people of Dover also matter something which has been neglected in the past
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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Jan it's not jealously but just getting DTIZ to where it is now has cost the district millions. There is this perception that the rest of the district is doing well, so we should throw everything at Dover to regenerate it. But it's not working.
Jack of Hearts
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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not at the moment jack,with ditz and the high street working together it will.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
Jack the funds you perhaps refer to is money endowed by the Big Lottery Fund to Local Trust
www.localtrust.org.uk who in turn granted £1m to Dover Big Local
www.biglocal.org to spend over a 10 year period improving the area they cover. The money must meet one of the specific local trust outcomes.
Additionally Dover Town Team received a small grant as part of the rather ill fated Mary Portas lead scheme, it was probably a blessing that they didn't win. They have managed a fair degree of success in bringing traders together and becoming a key consultee on developments in the town centre.
Notwithstanding this it is eminently sensible in the absence of refunding their parishioners for DTC to seek to use the surplus they have generated over the years for the benefit of the town. The Mayor's proposal is to create a Community Interest Company initially funded by DTC, but clearly thereafter to seek match funding from other sources, to seek to take town centre properties into community control and use them to benefit the community going forward. There are many sources of funding that can be tapped into for the acquisition, especially given the seed capital being proposed, Long term sustainability would come from a sensible rental book.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Always talk of a water feature when the subject of regeneration arises the one in Folkestone seemed popular yesterday.
Guest 1385- Registered: 27 Oct 2014
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Now this would be nice Dover the little Kids love it.

Guest 1385- Registered: 27 Oct 2014
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Whoops. Now this would be nice to see in Dover the little Kids love it.

howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Agree about the kids Stu I was standing about 40/50 metres away and my ears were besieged by the shrieks that young 'uns make when they are having a great time.
However if we had one in Market Square as planned it would have to be a much smaller one otherwise customers of the shops, pubs and cafes would get a drenching.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Plenty of shrieks around the occasional ground-level installation water feature in Albert Road Deal still and a certain lack of both action and candour from Southern Water on the subject!

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