Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Again we see a joke being made at a very sad time not only for the person who died but familys as well .
Vic, most people deal with tragedy through humour. It isn't sick and twisted, it's normal. Call it a coping mechanism if you like.
I don't find any of the jokes RaoulMoatly funny.
But hey. Getting back to TV reporting, it seems to me that the police efforts are as much triggered by media coverage as public interest. If any of you view various websites that show alternative news then you'll know that this type of situation is far more common that anyone may realize. It's only the ones that attract the attention of mainstream media that tend to get all the big attention and the big screaming fighter jets, all the rest are handled in the normal way by cops just doing their jobs. Yes the police responses were probably OTT but then so was the transformation of this tragic event into a big media event, which it was. This was a coronation of QEII, a Moon landing, a Churchill funeral, a Princess Di funeral. This was a big TV event and nothing more to everyone except those immediately involved.
We may all moralize about the awful media coverage (especially the shameless law-breaking coverage by Sky News) but we loved it. Let's not be shy here. If we were that offended by it we wouldn't have watched it. That murderer would have probably been caught and sentenced but I do believe that the media presence resulted in the added tension that led to him killing himself.
Just like the BBC reporter Robert Peston, who loves reporting bad economic news in over-dramatic style so that we all panic and stop spending, this was a classic example of what is wrong with our current media culture.
We ALL killed that guy. Whether we want to face up to that fact or not is another matter but it was a public execution led by media intrusion.
Rick,
Couldn't have put it better myself!
Apart from the disjoint sort of humour (loads of neural research on this) you are left with the idea of humour as catharsis, a release from embarrassment and especially fear, which is why there's loads of jokes on sex and death respectively. (or is it the other way round?)
(Stone me, there's Feynmann on TV and they are talking Quantum - BBC4 01.30)
Must go.....
Wow it's on iPlayer. Bohr, Heisenberg etc. etc. (and here comes the cat!). Do watch.
Must open more wine. Serious TV at last!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b008d2zj/Parallel_Worlds_Parallel_Lives/Brian Dixon
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marek,love you aviater.

Watched quite a bit of the quantum programme but had to sign off when filming at Priceton station. Fascinating programme and will catch the rest on iPlatyer later. Astonished at the high levels of bi-polarism amongst that strain of scientific families.
Just one question though: Why put such a good programme on at that time of night?
Back to Mr Moat. Nice words from Jacqui, except, if his mother was so bloomin' good, why did he feel unloved? Let's not put our standards of morality and care onto a monster who was prepared to kill those around him. Whatever the media part was in this, a violent murderer is no longer with us and we aren't paying for the priviledge of keeping him locked up until some do-gooding idiot decides to unleash him on the public. Moat will kill no more, hoorah!!!!
Good riddance Moat, we won't miss you or any like you!
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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Bob, must be an old quantum programme mate, Schrodinger`s cat has moved on to his kitten`s. Another book by John Gribbin, his sequel to the cat. Facinating stuff I`ve read for year`s, but still can`t get my head round. No worries though, Niels Bohr once said, "Anyone who claims that quantum theory is clear, doesn`t really understand it. Back to the original thread though.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
That guy killed himself and another guy and wounded his ex-lady and a copper. He played the media, acheived his aims and topped himself when he couldn't get the police to do it for him (which would have achieved even more notoriety). He blamed everyone but himself for his actions. Seen 'em, know 'em, not surprised. Sorry for his Mum, some kids just turn out differently to how you might expect - the rogue ones.
Bern. Yo. Glad to know that someone else has the t-shirt!
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Blinded Pc held in assault probe.
Is arrest the first option in circumstances such as this?
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/blinded-pc-held-assault-probe-124112783.htmlIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Is this another example of the press leaping ahead of events? How is this piece of information "in the public interest"? Does it qualify even as Sleb gossip? No. Simple intrusion and speculation - the stuff that makes the publishers of "news"papers rich.
Jan Higgins
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I only read a few of the comments that was enough, there are certainly some very worrying anti ones on there.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I think it is a sad reflection on our newspapers that this was even reported.
Yes I know people like to write about the news, but this man, as many of the comments stated, should be left alone - there's no facts at all, so it's a non-story.
I was going to reproduce a couple of comments, but decided against it.
Roger