howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Hardly surprising, even more surprising that 12 nice looking newish houses are left to rot with the demand high for accommodation.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/derelict-houses---second-fire-123921/Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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#2
These are the houses that has just been allocated an EU grant [I believe] to create a dementia sheltered environment styled on Dutch model.
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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#3
Dementia housing was certainly the plan, though I think it a very poor choice with pocket handkerchief gardens and at the end of a street full of young families.
The housing association were supposed to have resecured all of these properties and carrying out regular security patrols.
The gardens are still full of old furniture, suitcases, mattresses etc. So a ready source of fuel for those of the arsonist persuasion!
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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Summer holidays are here and the youths favourite arson site is back in use, 3 fire engines in attendance for this one!
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#5
With so many needing a decent place to live it is obscene that these houses are empty, they moved people out of them then leave them to get vandalised.
http://www.kentlive.news/water-seen-gushing-from-cannons-as-firefighters-tackle-a-fire-behind-dover-hospital/story-30487766-detail/story.htmlhoward mcsweeney1 likes this
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#6
Going by very vague memory I thought that after the residents were evicted the NHS took over in order to house their staff working at the new hospital.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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The NHS owned and still do I believe, they terminated the lease with riverside housing association so they could "explore options for the site" was their quote, still talk of a dementia village I believe.
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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This is the site that supposedly has an EU grant to convert into a dementia community. KCC & EK Hospitals were in the frame to deliver this. Anybody know of progress on moving this on.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Paul Watkins wrote:This is the site that supposedly has an EU grant to convert into a dementia community. KCC & EK Hospitals were in the frame to deliver this. Anybody know of progress on moving this on.
Now now Paul you know as we we all do that East Kent takes a back seat at KCC, when Pat Sherratt asked the question of where the money had gone from the sale of the old Buckland hospital he was told that it would benefit Kent council tax payers. Loosely translated Sevenoaks, Tunbridge Wells etc would benefit.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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These houses are a shining example of NHS inefficiency, empty vandalised houses that will probably cost a fortune to repair instead of providing an income, even if in the grand scheme of things that amount is small.
I expect this sort of thing is happening all over the country no wonder the various health authorities are in the red.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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Reginald Barrington wrote:Dementia housing was certainly the plan
That's all right then. They probably won't notice!
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,261
#13
Same link as Jan above, no fire there this afternoon, yet!
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Paul Watkins wrote:This is the site that supposedly has an EU grant to convert into a dementia community. KCC & EK Hospitals were in the frame to deliver this. Anybody know of progress on moving this on.
Received £2 000 000 from Europe earlier this year they were asking for 60% of price and inquiring of municipal charities and DHB regarding remaining funding. Have not found anything more recent than February.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Re the above posting.Do you mean Municipal Charities of Dover?Im the current Chairman and I know nothing about this funding request .
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Yes Sue agree at board of directors meeting June I think last year that they would approach both munciple and DHB as potential sources of additional funding.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Interesting I. Will seek answers.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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From this week's DDC planning list.
17/01536 Erection of a detached two storey community building with roof terrace, conversion and extension of 12no. existing semi-detached dwellings into 6no. detached residential care units, erection of security fencing and gates, installation of solar panels to roofslope of care units, formation of footpaths and creation of car park and heat source compound
43-65 & Land adjoining, Randolph Road, Dover, CT17 0FZ
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Update from this week's list.
17/01536 Change of use to a C2 dementia unit including erection of a detached two storey community building with roof terrace, care facilities and 6 bed guest accommodation, extension and alterations of 12no existing semi-detached dwellings to form care units for 30 residents, installation of security fencing/gates/solar panels/footpaths/carpark and ground source heat compound
43-65 & Land adjoining, Randolph Road, Dover,
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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