howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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23 November 2010
21:4481354#1
from january 2011 fares in kent will rise on average by 7.8%.
sounds like a kick in the teeth or the dangly bits to people that have no choice but to use the train to get to work.
rail companies point out that they have 2 sources of income, subsidies and fares.
subsidies have been reduced by the last administration and the new one.
no doubt they will both continue to decry the use of the car.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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23 November 2010
21:4681357#2
Lovely - doubt my employer will pick that up in my pay rise (excuse while I roll around laughing like a loon)
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Brian Dixon
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24 November 2010
07:5481395#3
thankfully i dont have to commute by train everyday.so this wont affect me.
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24 November 2010
08:2881404#4
But it can and probably will have an affect on a wider population Brian.
Roger
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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24 November 2010
10:1381416#5
probaly, but its there choice.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 November 2010
10:4681421#6
most people don't have a choice brian, it is the only way they can get to work.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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24 November 2010
10:4881422#7
howard aknoledged,but couldnt they find somthing nearer home with the same pay.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 November 2010
12:5881430#8
brian
if they could they would not go out of their way to work further away fron home.
Keith Sansum1
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24 November 2010
13:5681432#9
The problem this govt has is that on the one hand it wants to cut the subsidies to private rail companies, to make up this shortfall the rail companies put up rail fares way above inflation.
Of course the constant hike in rail fares will just turn even more people away from the trains
Brian
sad ou took a selfish outlook on rail fare increases
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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24 November 2010
15:2581447#10
kieth, not being selfish,just an opinion.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 November 2010
17:0281461#11
seems that commuters will take the brunt of the increases, some seasons tickets between kent and london will rise by over 12 %.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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24 November 2010
17:4881466#12
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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24 November 2010
20:2681508#13
Brian that will be a big NO
If I look at the role I do I would struggle to get more than 66% of what I get working in the City for a similar role locally.
For some, tower crane operators for example, you go where the work is and most of that is in London
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 November 2010
21:2181511#14
the same people shackled with the 12% hike will also be paying extra v.a.t. with very little likelihood of a pay rise to compensate.
commuters are an easy target, those that use the trains now and then can switch to national express if need be.
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25 November 2010
08:4181570#15
If you're not a commuter and can book in advance, tickets are still cheap, but you have to look for them and booking online also helps.
Roger
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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25 November 2010
08:4581572#16
ross,if you like paying lots of money to travel to work,but finding there is only standing room is it worth the hassle.seeing that most train services are third world only.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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25 November 2010
08:5281576#17
Much of the problems with standing-room only is the lack of carriages, not the quality of them.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 November 2010
12:5981618#18
the government has announced that £8 billion will be invested in the railways, 2000 new carriages are included in this.
hopefully we see some of these in our neck of the woods.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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25 November 2010
15:1881623#19
The problem also is the bottleneck into the main london stations, you can only get so many trains on the line.
but the hike in fares will turn people of travelling on trains
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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25 November 2010
19:3481677#20
Brian no problems - I use the High Speed services and always get a seat in both directions, as well as saving 40 minutes each way on my journey time - frankly worth the premium
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