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I agree with everyone,not that I am always in the pub,last weekend though I was out celebrating my daughters 21st in one of the noisest/busiest pubs in the town centre,it was busy,in fact it was manic,but they can not cope with the big chain Pubs,like w*th**sp**ns,where they buy booze at prices that are so cheap,along with the smoking ban etc,but youngsters still have money to burn,look at the pubs that have gone in Dover,they are not known as youngsters pubs.