Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#1
What a stupid idea, to suggest that people now separate their food waste from other waste. Food waste will be collected weekely and non-food fortnightly, plus the various box collections for paper glass paper and garden waste.
Who has time and space to be able to mess around this much? I forsee an incinerator in the garden.....
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#2
the whole thing has now got out of hand, where do we put the food scrapings each day?
outside the house so that the wildlfe can scavenge?
inside so that the place stinks to high heaven?
people are confused enough as it is
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#3
We used to always used to have a pig bin where we scrapped all our food and peelings. It was collected weekly by the pigman and taken away to be boiled and given to the pigs. Maybe it could work with a bit of thought and planning,
Marek
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#4
Pig bins are good stuff!!
Wait, I need to pause and consider where to put the tissue I just sneezed into. Paper, waste, recycling. So much choice so little time.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#5
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#6
Not allowed to swill feed anymore, that all finished in the seventies, the last time I had pigs, I swill fed and collected the swill, was in 1980, I defied the authoroties and swill fed, what a job I had to get them slaughtered when they were big eneough, it clearly was not worth the hassle, although I will say that the meat tasted better then than it does now. everything fed on pellets these days.
Sheila
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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#7
Paul aka Scotchie the reason this has come to light is because of changes in the waste contract and we will be join ing Shepway in a joint collection soon,us on the opposite side are concerned that the collections will be general waste one week and recycled waste the next.That is why we have asked that food waste will be collected every week this is the response we recieved from Paul Watkins.
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#8
Will we get a cut in our council tax ?
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Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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#9
it will just cause people to dump rubbish
thought they had the sense to give up on this idea
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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10 August 2009
08:3026949#10
Paul - this will be a response to a much lower level of Govement support in future years. As you know Council Tax only covers a tiny proportion of what Council's spend, around 80% is sent down from Government. With Council Tax also capped the only way councils can meet their budgets is to find economies.
A simple and crude bit of maths for you, If a Council spends £100m and gets £80m of that from the Government and £20m from Council Tax, the Government then cuts its proportion by 5% the following year, Council Tax will have to rise 20% even without allowing for inflation costs. If inflation was 1% (that means effectively no more than 1% pay rises for staff) there is a 25% Council Tax increase needed. If CT is capped at, say 10% (with inflation at 1% thats generous!) what on earth can a council do? Indeed try a 25% increase when inflation is 1% even if it were allowed.....
Better the kind or arrangement DDC are doing than wholesale cuts, perhaps fortnightly collections full stop.
Dont get me wrong, I dont like it and it will cause real problems. But lets at least acknowledge the problems DDC has.
What of course is really needed is a big shake up of LG finance but that would take legislation and the debate on how to change it is one to run and run.....
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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10 August 2009
11:0526951#11
Barry
the problem to me is that there is so much smoke and mirrors stuff around public spending that no-one really knows the cost of anything anymore (well, I don't!). I want to know what the cost of the services are and how much DIRECT tax I really need to pay. I'd rather have this as indirect taxation just obscures the reality. I suspect though that as all politicians want us to believe they will cut our taxes and improve public services that there isn't a political party that would dare do this.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 August 2009
12:3526954#12
It is a result of trying to be one of the lowest council tax rates/increased in Kent, eventually it comes back and bites you as you are capped on increases and you just get cumulatively worse off as years go on...
I would rather pay an extra few quid for it all to be collected weekly and I am sure others would too.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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10 August 2009
14:2826960#13
Mark, I do agree with you and if we want truly acountable local government we need them to be able to raise all their own finance,not just a small proportion. It is not good enough to have such a system where local and national government can play the blame game.
Personally I agree with the proposals put forward by Dan Hannan of VAT being switch to a local (county level) local sales tax. The numbers stack up fairly well for that, with Council Tax also being a part of the package (reformed). In these proposals some help, at least transitionary, will be needed to a few particular deprived areas but most in most places it could work out quite well.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 August 2009
07:0827085#14
I have just arrived home before 7am to put the bin bags out as normal and, guess what, they have already been collected!
So either you put them out the night before to be attacked by the seagulls or get up particularly early just in case they might decide to collect earlier than normal.
This really is an appalling way to deliver a service.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 August 2009
07:2727090#15
Complain to the Council Barry; they shouldn't start before 7am. Ask them to come back and collect your rubbish.
Some houses could just have dustbins - they don't cost much, we bought one from B & Q quite cheap and it saves so much aggravation and mess.
On the above subject of local sales tax, I'm not sure how this would work; do you mean that items bought in shops, pubs, cafes and restaurants would be subject to a further tax ?
If so, I don't think so, our shops, pubs, cafes and restaurants are suffering enough without putting buyers off even more.
If it's not that, I'd love to hear a clearer explanation.
Roger
Roger
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 August 2009
07:5027092#16
Roger - you should read Dan's book about localism, Direct Democracy. The amount of revenue given as grants to local councils is broadly the same as the net amount the British Government gets from VAT receipts at 17.5%. The idea is to stop the grant and allow VAT to be levied locally as a local sales tax. As long as the minimum is 15% and the EU gets its bung its would be legal.
So no, not an additional tax, a replacement that would be levied on a county rather than district basis. There would still be Council Tax and Business Rates with the latter set locally.
Roger - I have complained via the website.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 August 2009
10:4927109#17
Thanks Barry - and I hope they collect your rubbish.
Roger
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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13 August 2009
11:3327114#18
What I cannot understand is that the collect normal rubbish from the top of our path that is probably 50ft from the main road, but when it comes to recycling they refuse to collect unless we put it kerbside.
Add to that they regularly drop stuff from the back of the lorry and just leave it there for someone to pick up
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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13 August 2009
19:5427152#19
is the stuff dropped from damaged bags paul?
if so, it is not their job to clear it up.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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13 August 2009
19:5427153#20
is the stuff dropped from damaged bags paul?
if so, it is not their job to clear it up.
