Prisoners to get the vote !

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• Guest 653

  • Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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  2 November 2010     09:3978019
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  I hear this mornming that the EU is forcing us to give prisoners the vote as it is against their human rights not to have the vote.
  
  What about the human rights of people they have violated ? Do these prisoners think about losing their vote when they rape, murder, assault, rob, mug, burgle their victimes ? of course not.
  
  Isn't this another reason to get out of the EU ?
  
  
  
  
  
  Roger
• Guest 690

  • Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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  2 November 2010     09:4678020
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  Well, any do gooder MPs can now offer early release dates in their election campaigns, knowing they`ll get extra votes from the prisoner`s, not to mention family and freind`s. SICK!!
  Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
• Bob Frost

  • Location: Deal
  2 November 2010     09:5078021
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  This reform goes nowhere near far enough!
  
  With over 80.000 prisoners incarcerated as I write surely they deserve not only the vote but their own constituency?
• Guest 655

  • Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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  2 November 2010     09:5378022
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  This is wrong. One correction though Roger. The European Convention on Human Rights is nothing to do with the EU.
• Alan Taylor

  • Location: Dover
  2 November 2010     10:1778024
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  I still say take them out in a courtyard I would pay for the Bullets
• Guest 698

  • Registered: 28 May 2010
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  2 November 2010     10:2078025
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  Bob Frost is right. One MP for the lot of them.
  
  PG.
  I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
• Bern

  • Location: Dover
  2 November 2010     10:2078026
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  Sorry chaps - I fail to see how you can lump all prisoners together. There are countless reasons for being in prison - yes there are some horrendous bastards who should stay there for the rest of their natural, but there are also some vulnerable people, some sick people, some inoffensive but unlucky people, some there-but-for-the-grace-of-god-go-I people. Not do-gooding rhetoric, simple facts.
• Guest 655

  • Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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  2 November 2010     10:2478027
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  for those who have not seen the news in full here is the Speccie's take on it:
  
  http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/6434863/the-inviolable-right-of-prisoners.thtml
• Bern

  • Location: Dover
  2 November 2010     10:3878029
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  A good article. It is wise to acknowledge the variables and leave room for judgement calls - as I said, there are multitudes of reasons for imprisonment.
• Bob Frost

  • Location: Deal
  2 November 2010     10:4578031
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  I must say that 'No Incarceration Without Representation' has a certain ring to it!
• Bern

  • Location: Dover
  2 November 2010     10:4678032
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  Can I detect a lost deposit on the radar?
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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  2 November 2010     10:5278034
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  the last government refused to implement the ruling made in 2004, the problem is that it could cost the taxpayer a few hundred million pounds in legal costs to continue fighting against the decision.
• Bern

  • Location: Dover
  2 November 2010     11:0178036
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  Silly me - I thought the UK government governed the UK.................
• Brian Dixon

  • Location: Dover
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  2 November 2010     11:0678038
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  bern,it dus govern.
• Brian Dixon

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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  2 November 2010     11:1278041
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  apparently lifers and murders would be exempt from voting,that just leaves voting for minor offences.
• Ross Miller

  • Location: London Road, Dover
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  2 November 2010     12:1078052
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  Define minor and offence
  "Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
  
  "Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
  While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
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  2 November 2010     12:5178055
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  brian is right here, murderers and other lifers would not have the vote.
  i wonder how many will actually exercise their right, i cannot picture a bunch of muggers, pimps and drug dealers earnestly discussing the dichotomy between keynesian economics and the big society.
• Bern

  • Location: Dover
  2 November 2010     13:1178061
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  And yet I was only having a chat the other day with a (former) drug dealer who knew much more than I about Adam Smith.........
• Keith Sansum1

  • Location: london
  • Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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  2 November 2010     14:3578079
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  So it's not quite how Rodger stated.
  
  Let's see how this developes
  ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
• Brian Dixon

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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  2 November 2010     16:0378096
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  ross,try and keep up,in other words petty criminals.

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