Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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2 November 2010
09:3978019#1
I hear this mornming that the EU is forcing us to give prisoners the vote as it is against their human rights not to have the vote.
What about the human rights of people they have violated ? Do these prisoners think about losing their vote when they rape, murder, assault, rob, mug, burgle their victimes ? of course not.
Isn't this another reason to get out of the EU ?
Roger
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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2 November 2010
09:4678020#2
Well, any do gooder MPs can now offer early release dates in their election campaigns, knowing they`ll get extra votes from the prisoner`s, not to mention family and freind`s. SICK!!
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
2 November 2010
09:5078021#3
This reform goes nowhere near far enough!
With over 80.000 prisoners incarcerated as I write surely they deserve not only the vote but their own constituency?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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2 November 2010
09:5378022#4
This is wrong. One correction though Roger. The European Convention on Human Rights is nothing to do with the EU.
2 November 2010
10:1778024#5
I still say take them out in a courtyard I would pay for the Bullets
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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2 November 2010
10:2078025#6
Bob Frost is right. One MP for the lot of them.
PG.
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2 November 2010
10:2078026#7
Sorry chaps - I fail to see how you can lump all prisoners together. There are countless reasons for being in prison - yes there are some horrendous bastards who should stay there for the rest of their natural, but there are also some vulnerable people, some sick people, some inoffensive but unlucky people, some there-but-for-the-grace-of-god-go-I people. Not do-gooding rhetoric, simple facts.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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2 November 2010
10:2478027#8
2 November 2010
10:3878029#9
A good article. It is wise to acknowledge the variables and leave room for judgement calls - as I said, there are multitudes of reasons for imprisonment.
2 November 2010
10:4578031#10
I must say that 'No Incarceration Without Representation' has a certain ring to it!
2 November 2010
10:4678032#11
Can I detect a lost deposit on the radar?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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2 November 2010
10:5278034#12
the last government refused to implement the ruling made in 2004, the problem is that it could cost the taxpayer a few hundred million pounds in legal costs to continue fighting against the decision.
2 November 2010
11:0178036#13
Silly me - I thought the UK government governed the UK.................
Brian Dixon
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2 November 2010
11:0678038#14
bern,it dus govern.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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2 November 2010
11:1278041#15
apparently lifers and murders would be exempt from voting,that just leaves voting for minor offences.
Ross Miller
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2 November 2010
12:1078052#16
Define minor and offence
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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2 November 2010
12:5178055#17
brian is right here, murderers and other lifers would not have the vote.
i wonder how many will actually exercise their right, i cannot picture a bunch of muggers, pimps and drug dealers earnestly discussing the dichotomy between keynesian economics and the big society.
2 November 2010
13:1178061#18
And yet I was only having a chat the other day with a (former) drug dealer who knew much more than I about Adam Smith.........
Keith Sansum1
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2 November 2010
14:3578079#19
So it's not quite how Rodger stated.
Let's see how this developes
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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2 November 2010
16:0378096#20
ross,try and keep up,in other words petty criminals.