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    is there any real point roger, the forum has been going for a decade and a half and we are back at the same point.

    great efforts have been made by sheila, keith and of course yourself but council officers and police persons(some excepted) just seem to come along and pay lip service but no help is forthcoming.

    still no one way system in the clarendons for example yet the money was in place at kcc a long time ago.

    no disrespect intended towards the new breed like jen f that have come in more recently.

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