howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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can any of our members report back on what was discussed and what,if any, decisions were reached.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I was invited to attend but couldn't, so I can't offer anything on the meeting itself Howard.
Roger
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Will post later on agenda. Dover Forum debates got a mention from Bob and he stated the most accurate posting was the one that said the Port was owned by DHB and any changes in its status would need to be approved by SoS for Transport. There is no uniformity in Trust Ports governance and Dover's appeared to be most restrictive.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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will look forward to a report later paul, couldn't make it myself, the car that dr goldfield sent for me broke down en route.
Brian Dixon
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i wonderd why that jag was parked on folkestone road roundabout.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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"Bob stated the most accurate posting was the one that said the Port was owned by DHB"
That's what I posted quoting the letter from the DfT addressed to me.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Wrong wording,the D.H.B was put in place to run the port within the Royal Charter they do not own it, it is a Royal Port still.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Vic, DHB IS the Port!!! Plus the seafront and a few buildings in the vicinity.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Self praise is no recommendation Alexander, at least that is what we were told as children.
Audere est facere.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Wibble, Martin
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i suspect that dr goldfield is in full possession of the facts.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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To be fair it would seem you were on the money Alexander
Audere est facere.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Post 8 is very wrong yet again it is not own by the D.H.B. they just run the port in trust.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Vic, the information that Dover Harbour Board owns and runs the Port comes from the Department for Transport.
So whose word is right here?
Martin, Dover needs money from the Port, unless there is another economic system where money is not needed.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Howard, I could have told MP Charlie Elphicke before November 2010 that DHB owns the Port, and that it could not be purchased from the Government.
Charlie MP is a lawyer of Law, if I'm not mistaken, but certainly blundered there!
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Alexander D wrote:Vic, the information that Dover Harbour Board owns and runs the Port comes from the Department for Transport.
So whose word is right here?
Martin, Dover needs money from the Port, unless there is another economic system where money is not needed.
Doubt very much that DHB would say the money is not needed, there is a huge amount of work going on at the moment and their plans for the future are well documented.
Audere est facere.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I do not care who said it they are wrong and I am right ,read what it tells us all within the Royal Charter,end no more about this or the port from me.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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At present the DHB own the port of Dover. But there are provisions in the Ports Act 1991 and the Public Bodies Act 2012 for it to be taken away from them and transferred to another body, either private or otherwise. So Dr Bob is telling the truth and nothing but the truth, but not the whole truth.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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provisions peter yes, but the secretary of state alone will decide whether a transfer is a good idea.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Not alone, Howard, he will take advice and listen to those who lobby him.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson