Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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7 February 2011
07:0491773#1
A health watchdog has had its funding withdrawn after its chairman was bizarrely accused of racism for using the phrase 'jungle drums' to describe gossip.
The innocuous remark at a public meeting was seized upon by an equality campaigner - and the ensuing race row has lasted six months at a cost to the taxpayer of tens of thousands of pounds.
The trouble began at a gathering of the Wiltshire Involvement Network (WIN), an independent health watchdog, in Potterne Wick, Devizes, when chairman Anna Farquhar, 70, noted that gossip about NHS changes had been spreading within the Health Service, remarking: 'You cannot help the jungle drums
BarryW whats your learned opinion on the above...as if I don't know..
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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7 February 2011
07:4191774#2
Do I really need to say Marek. One, word, insanity, sums it up.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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7 February 2011
08:1491785#3
Insanity indeed Barry, absolute madness.
Jungle drums, Chinese whispers, merry-go-round, all innocuous phrases to describe the same thing. Where does racism come in ?
Drums in the jungle used to be used to send messages round to people, why is it racist ?
Roger
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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7 February 2011
08:1791786#4
Roger
The argument is that its an outdated and stereo typeform of communication used mainly in the depths of Africa. Therefore casting a detrimental comment over that continent.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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7 February 2011
08:2091790#5
Marek, whoever's warped sense of 'values' dreamed up that pile of tosh should be committed to a loony bin for their own safety.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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7 February 2011
08:2891794#6
A female 'equality campaigner' whose name escapes me.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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7 February 2011
08:3991799#7
Then she wants locking up - or sacking, that's no way to help improve race-relations; in fact it would make things worse.
Roger
Jan Higgins
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7 February 2011
10:0391804#8
Exactly Roger
. She causes the resentment that Joe Public can no longer say what they want, where and when they want, a troublemaker who sees problems where there are none.
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Guest 676- Registered: 1 Jul 2008
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7 February 2011
10:2991807#9
It was Sonia Carr, a member of the Wiltshire Racial Equality Council that complained, she wants all the watchdog members to understand equality and diversity issues.
Million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 February 2011
11:0791810#10
there was a case a few years back when the police were at a forum in a community centre, halfway through a drumming class started up in the next room.
the inspector turned to his black colleague and said to her "can you tell us what they are saying?".
she reported him and he got demoted.
7 February 2011
11:1791813#11
Having myself suffered the slur of being called a racist, I am in the sorry position of being able to tell you that if only one person present considers a remark to be racist, then it IS. No argument possible.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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7 February 2011
13:0291818#12
That shows up the absurdity of the situation Diana. The world has truly gone mad.
People need to get some back-bone they really do.
Brian Dixon
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7 February 2011
17:4391847#13
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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7 February 2011
17:5991858#14
Nobody has mentioned it but, yes, the complainant in this case was black. At least that's better than white council officers getting offended on her behalf (which is what I call racistism).
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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7 February 2011
18:0191860#15
Send in the men with the flapping white coats to Wiltshire, armed with a straightjacket...
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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7 February 2011
18:0591861#16
Barry, that is deeply offensive to psychiatric nurses. Resign immediately and report to the Palace of Whitfield for diversity training.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 February 2011
18:2291867#17
i remember robin day introducing a panellist on question time by describing her as a guardian columnist's dream.
the panellist was actually a black disabled lesbian.
rather a thin smile from her.
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7 February 2011
18:3291869#18
Joan Bakewell was referred to as the 'thinking man's crumpet', surely that would offend someone nowadays?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 February 2011
18:5791875#19
i doubt that ms bakewell would complain, she was very generous in bestowing her favours(allegedly).
indeed a coarse person might have referred to her as the bakewell tart.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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7 February 2011
19:4391881#20
like that one Howard...
