howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i am wondering what plans the developers have for the property now.
there are 8 single units television aerial and satellite dish have been installed.
Alec Sheldon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 18 Aug 2008
- Posts: 1,037
Old news Howard, even though the date is Mon. 16th. . I read it last week.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Nimby springs to mind - better housed than on the streets ?
Been nice knowing you :)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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but they would have been out on the streets at night, no cover from 8 pm until noon the next day.
it looks like the developer is just trying to make a profit on the cheap - minimal staff and associated costs.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Without overnight and weekend supervision they will be out on the streets anyway. A proper supervised hostel would not have raised objections.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Snap.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Not sure about that Peter - I just don't think the want any hostel there by the way I read it
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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It does sound ultra-anti-teenager.
Who does the supervision while they remain homeless?
But,
Yes, if the building was knocked down there would be ample space for a custom-built hostel that could have housed a larger number and a caretaker.
How often can one abandon a child?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Normally foster parents, Tom.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
Guess it will now become a bedsit with any old riff raff in it, even 16 or 17 year olds.
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It is a wasted opportunity. Did those who opposed it donate to Children In Need by any chance?
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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opportunities lost
nimby wins again
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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If any of you had attended the Planning Committee, you would had seen that it was much more than NIMBYism. I'm sure that NIMBYism played a part though.
Comparisons were made with the Folkestone Road site where it is supervised up to 10pm - and then the fun starts (not fun for neighbours I understand).
It's not just that the young people will/may get up to all sorts, it's that other "bad" people will be drawn to them - drug-dealers etc. There's more control when 24 hours.
The trouble is that Folkestone Road was the first one and I don't remember it coming before the Planning Committee. Ask the Guest Houses and neighbours about their experiences.
No one is anti young person, but all are anti ASB.
Roger
So many stuck up people in this world makes me sick, lets leave the younger kids in need on the streets and bend over backwards and help the down and losers in Dover instead or the older generation always up roar when nursing homes get closed yet sure these young kids understand .
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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No one is saying leave the kids on the street Melissa, but we are saying look after them properly - and not on the cheap, because then they won't be looked after at all.
To the Planning Committee members, this looked more like profit before care.
Roger
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Melissa, would you be happy to have a group of this age running riot after 10.00pm next door to you, it has nothing to do with "stuck up people".
I know how much noise my very well behaved grandson can make when he has his friends visiting, when home from Uni he does not go to bed until 2.00pm at the earliest.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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roger knows what he is talking about here, the folkestone road one is an absolute nightmare for the people living nearby.
Jan where i live its common anyway i would rather they had somewhere safe and warm to sleep tho at the end of the night
Exactly.
And it shouldn't be a case of we can only support one group of the young/old/deprived/sick - many kinds of people need support in different ways. It's never easy, though, if we are affected by it, having it in the same street, or in the same town. It's all a little uncomfortable. But the bottom line is there are always going to be people with alternative lifestyles, some of whom need help to change that. Ignoring them or despising them for it will not help, and will not achieve anything.
