Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Keith you must spend hours pulling splinters out of your backside.
Have you heard of the Fabian Society? Have you actually READ what they say? And do you agree with them or not?
All you ever do is twist words and dodge straight questions
Keith Sansum1
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never have david
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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the 3 questions
1; Being in the labour party over 4 years ago or more of course i would have heard of the fabian society
2;yes i'v read the article
3;do i agree, now thats a wider answer, im not convinced they have it right, I fully understand there viewpoint
whilst barryw does a lot to convnce me there are some aspects that would need closer scrutiny.
I do feel it wrong that someone who has looked after there dosh saved well on a low income, could under the fabian
society ideas, be told, well you live alone now, get out of your house and go into sheltered housing.
why should they? and is that right?
The more complex question of paying pensions to all no matter your income is an issue, as it could be said that
those well off could be said to not need one.
The taking away of winter fuel allowance again for those well off, maybe should be looked at but going altogether it is
a life line tom many
just a few observations
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the winter fuel allowance is paid to people over 60 living in sunnier climes so that has to be addressed, plus there are many comfortably off pensioners that do not need it.
the problem is the cost of bringing people in to means test it could cost more than the money saved.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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In general the pensioners have done their bit by the time they retire and the retirement usually creates a chance for someone else in the workplace, let them enjoy retirement, for many it is not long anyway.
Audere est facere.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Yes certainly, taken as a whole pensioners have done their bit, but by no means is this quite true of each. Over at least the last twenty years many people have had stonking wage and pension entitlement increases, for the good times were said to continue ad infinitum. Alas this has not proved to be the case.
Final Salary Schemes are a case in point, huge Golden Goodbyes also and the striking, yet continuing, inability of Council Tax banding to keep pace with property prices are all areas where the pigeons must come home to roost.
One continuing aspect of this that really ticks me off...
Take the Tory-controlled Wandsworth council, the one that provides the Tories with the 'proud' boast of having the lowest council tax in the country.
While striving to keep their 'proud' name, by cutting savagely;libraries, meals on wheels, police and playgrounds etc. etc.
Even to the extent, Eye read, that one primary school lollipop lady is having her wages paid by a local Estate Agent.
While only last year the pay packet of the borough's CEO was swelled a further 40% to £254,880.
Off the top of my head, the PM gets about £120,000.
Right now, a further Council tax band (or two) should be introduced in order that Castle and Cottage are no longer taxed at the same level.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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yep theres another thread running saying just how wrong all of this is
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