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  I agree that the facts on this issue need research, Barry, but the latest BBC figures mentioned were from November 2012, which is quite recent.
  But what is new to me, is that, apart from the National Debt, there is a private pension debt too, of which I was unaware.
  And it's several hundred billions.
  
  It also became clear that private pension funds are invested mainly in Gov. bonds, and to an extent in shares, and partly in property.
  Now if property is already over-valued, that too is a high risk investment.
  
  So it seems a speculative paper and property-bubble thing that people have invested in with these pension schemes.
  But on the whole the topic is interesting.

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