Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
The Sunday Times has a story today that will incense some of you.
Keith Hammerton, 73, a convicted paedophile was allowed to choose where he lived and declined a further stay in a bail hostel in south west London. A leaked report said that he posed a "very high level of dynamic risk" and he considered women as "evil" and that he felt that his victims enjoyed their abuse and benefited from it!
Despite being under supervision he was allowed to check into the County Hotel here in Dover described by the paper as a family hotel. Dover District Council paid for his stay. Only after the paper made enquiries did the hotel discover his background and he moved out on Thursday. He now lives as a registered sex offender in the Folkestone area.
Two things emerge here. One, why should our council pick up the tab for this criminal to stay in a hotel in Dover? And two, what is the Probation Service up to?
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Of course this is truly awful, but where are these people supposed to live? They have to live somewhere and I wonder what or where forumites suggest? A dedicated community seems too awful to contemplate. Perhaps chemical castration is the only answer....
And I, too, am interested to know why DDC paid for him? Does he have links A to Dover?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the whole issue beggars belief, i can understand why everything was kept under wraps.
fears of vigilantism would come to the fore, however parents of young children will be horrified to hear that his individual has been living close by without their knowledge.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Without knowing the full facts it's difficult to comment. The chances of the public knowing the full facts now or in the future are miniscule.So I suppose,rightly or wrongly,poor old Dovorians will just have to put up with it.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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To quote from the paper:-
"After his licence period ended last month he was apparently allowed to choose where to live and his application for housing was accepted by Dover District Council".
Were DDC aware of his background? What pull does the Probation Office have over councils? Were DDC forced to take him, and where does that leave young couples desperate but unable to get on the housing list?
It just isn't equitable.
I am at one with Diana and realise that my comments smack of nimbyism. Equally I can only quote from Mel Smith on Not The Nine O'Clock News - "Off with their goolies"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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I think marek';s right on this one, we wont get to hear the full facts so difficult to make a judgement
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the problem is that parents of children do not get the full facts keith.
this man is a serial offender with no qualms about his behaviour, should be under permanent lock and key in my view.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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as said howard without all the facts which we dont have, and probably wont get
its difficult to form an opinion
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
Terry, your post #5 just about sums it up.
This man is not just a paedophile he is an evil man who has no remorse at all.
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Terry
Put your questions to the DDC....but I doubt you will receive an answer.
Not wishing to sound too much like a left wing do gooder but nothing untoward appears to have occurred during his sojourn at the County.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
The main question is: if he still poses a threat what is he doing out anyway? People like this never change, regardless of what bleeding heart psychiatrists and social workers say. Some people manage to change their behaviours, paedophiles simply don't. Letting them out, even on licence (which is a joke anyway) is not worth the risk. Their freedom balanced against the safety children and women - it's a no brainer. Keep him inside.
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Bern
No-one can fault that argument but until there is a shift in the law this won't be the last time we hear of a similar story happening again.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I have to agree with Howard and Bern - you cannot cure a paedophile, so the safest thing for children and females, is to keep him locked up.
Terry's idea, I don't have an argument with, but would it stop him having those tendancies ?
Roger
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Get rid of the testosterone Roger and you've got rid of the driving force and desire.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Not so..a large majority are impotent but get their 'kick' out of molestation.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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That's what I was concerned about Marek.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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rather odd that we try so hard to attract visitors here and this pervert actually "chooses" dover.
i remember starting a thread a while back after discovering a report on bail hostels.
i cannot remember the details but it showed that a large proportion of the residents of these hostels were dangerous people, some a threat to children.
i think it was marek that gave the road which housed one and another poster(might have been sheli) was alarmed over the fact that her children went close by going to and from school.
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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About five or six years ago, it may be little more, I was approached (as chairman of LRCF) by a couple of ladies who were concerned of reports of a paedophile in the London Road bail hostel. They were concerned about it's close proximity to three primary and one nursery school.
I contacted the police who officially assured me that it wasn't so but a local bobby told me that there was in fact one in another hostel in a different part of town, near the docks. I was told that the said person was being closely watched especially by CCTV. Sadly there was no coverage, and still isn't, near the schools.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
This story is just shocking , poses so many questions as a mum of three i believe he needs to be hung nothing more or less and if he thinks women are evil then let me in a room with him for a ten minutes he would up grade that statement to dancing with the sataness.
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Indeed it is extremely shocking and very unnerving to hear that this sex offender was 'put up' in one of our Hotels here in the middle of our town by our Council, is this for real?
The fact that he is now housed as a registered sex offender in the Folkestone area does nothing to alleviate our fears. By all accounts he still poses a threat to all Women and Children so whats he doing out of prison, he should be locked up for good and all.