Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,101
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,101
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,057
https://www.ft.com/content/01e0333c-be7a-419c-9b8c-5202cd9cca6f (and pretty re-hashed drivel it is too - yawn).
Edit: damn, that paywall comes up again; if you want to read the article for yourself, Google on strike-prone + Calais.
(Not my real name.)
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,546
Update of number of jobs locally to go.
I wonder how many actual local people work on the ferries nowadays? There's a lot of week-on-week-off working.
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/more-than-half-of-p-o-redundancies-come-from-dover-227070/Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,931
Sadly over half come from Dover
But others would have helped build the economy over the years
Instead now chucked on the scrap heap
Of course this is not the first time we have been at odds with p and 0
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,257
Hopefully someone will buy the ferries and re-employ the majority.
Arte et Marte
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,879
Keith Sansum1 wrote:Sadly over half come from Dover
But others would have helped build the economy over the years
Instead now chucked on the scrap heap
Of course this is not the first time we have been at odds with p and 0
Once upon a time all the crews were local or from the surrounding area. I think it was back in the late 1980s or even early 1990s that the Liverpool seamen arrived depriving some of the locals of jobs.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
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The Gov- Registered: 24 May 2020
- Posts: 151
At the moment it is Hull. Dover will be next.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,101
Foreign owned. Foreign flagged. End of.
Perhaps RMT could set up a People's Ferry?
Thought not .....
According to the local rag, there's a petition with over a thousand signatures. Don't forget to sign (if your hands have recovered from clapping for our wonderful NHS), I'm sure it will make a difference.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
right bob, the way i see it, the british seamen will no longer excist within 3 years, and ships will be crewed with unschilled or poorly trained crews.
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The Gov- Registered: 24 May 2020
- Posts: 151
I can see that happening Brian
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,101
Brian, flagging out and hiring foreign crews has been going on for years.
Not sure crew any more unskilled or poorly trained than Brits? (Don't mention the HOFE)
See miners, farriers, candle stick makers, fletchers, thatchers etc. The world has moved on (and it's all a damn sight better than Sealink which was run by, if not owned by, the unions).
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,879
I wish we had a thumbs down symbol as well as the like symbol at the bottom of comments.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
bob sealink was state operated not union.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
Captain Haddock wrote:
Not sure crew any more unskilled or poorly trained than Brits? (Don't mention the HOFE)
More ignorance and bigotry. Read Justice Sheen's report about 'staggering complacency' and an organisation 'infected by the disease of sloppiness' from the top down. I know. I was working there at the time.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,101
Q.E.D. Ray.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,299
On a point of order, I don't see how P&O can operate with foreign staff on the short sea route. Where would they live, for example? They wouldn't get a visa to live in the UK or France, one suspects - so how does it work?
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,101
Seamen are allowed to join, or remain with, vessels that are refitting or under construction in the UK. If they arrive as crew of the vessel and are engaged to leave as crew of that vessel they will be eligible for entry without leave under section 8(1) of the Immigration Act 1971 (the act).
Which is why East London is full of toothless unemployed Somali laskars chewing khat while their offspring are running drug crime and getting all jiggly with shooters.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson