Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I am self employed Barry, only to day I shelled out £600 to national grid for a bit of plastic to say I am qualified to do a job I passed exams for 20 years ago
I have plenty of parasites to deal with, I don't see the government getting rid of all this crap
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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We all get crap Keith. The biggest load of crap is what governments always throw at us.
Brian Dixon
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including the torys.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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All governments Brian.
Keith Sansum1
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oh dear we are back to barryw's comment on keith bibby(without knowing his background) you have never done it, comments
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith (S) - trying to stir again!!!!!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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just an observation don't need to stir, your doing a wonderful job yourself
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I think some times we all forget the true job of money
Money in an economy is similar to blood in the body; its job is to circulate bringing nutrients and vitamins to maintain those parts of the body,
When you starve those parts of the body or bleed away that blood, them parts do not function correctly and start to stop
Back to money.
If you cut of the supply of money, or reduce peoples earning power, or reduce wages to much the economy will start to stall.
To much money leaking away or not flowing around the system reduces the circulation of money
The rich need to stop hording money in the Cayman Islands and start investing it and start spreading it around back in to the economies
For the personal UK economy employing large amounts of out side workers all spending very little and sending large amount of cash back to there country of origin is not good for the UK PLC
Importing more than you exports is not good and needs to stop
Over taxing to give to a minority of workers or spending on thing that do not improve the infrastructure for growth and re circulation of that taxation is bad taxation.
And giving money, hard earned to parasites that do not have proper productive employment is bad for all of us.
So there you have it theirs plenty money ,it's just not sloshing around enough
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I can agree with most of that Keith (B)
What we have is a catch 22 though demonstrated by your post. We most certainly have too much being paid in benefits and wasteful public spending. Governments try to do too much and most of it just piles on costs to business that damages competitiveness. Public spending and taxes both must be cut for these reasons. But there is a problem because the government has been spending more than it has income, by a massive margin. This has exactly the same problem as you would have if you just kept spending on credits cards every month only paying off the minimum. So necessary spending cuts are just being made to reduce the amount the government is overspending, they are not cutting enough to really reduce the burden on business fast enough enabling it to grow the economy. That is why it is important to look at other ways to reduce the burdens on business as well, such as making the labour markets more flexible and de-risking employment for small companies - this comes back to where we started.
Your last sentence, yes there is enough money but it is the government that is soaking up far too much of it - the last figure I had was 53% of it from 2010, a bit lower now but still not low enough. It needs to get down really to about 30% for us to be competitive internationally. It will take a lot of years to get it as low as that, growth must be the main way to do it but substantial public spending cuts must be made so growth can get moving.
That was a good post Keith (B).