13 September 2010
21:3670396........ in Cuba!!!!!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11291267
Looks like the last truly Socialist nation on the planet is turning its back on Socialism! Strange times indeed!
Perhaps Francis Fukuyama was right!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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13 September 2010
21:5870405bob
you seem to have forgotten north korea or if you believe sid, the united kingdom for the past 13 years.
13 September 2010
22:1570414Howard,
I stand corrected!
Nevertheless it looks like a victory for McWorld in Cuba!
13 September 2010
22:1770416Bob, for some reason it takes socialists a long time to realise their way doesn't work. Of course they are aided by a public that continues to vote for something they rarely get, unless of course you count removal of personal freedom, and ALL socialist governments worldwide are up for delivering on that score.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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13 September 2010
22:2570420all socialist governments?
we have agreed that there are only two.
13 September 2010
23:0370454Selective memory or just chosing to forget those previously? How convenient.
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14 September 2010
06:5370482Its the old trick of the left Sid.
Faced with the evils, incompetence and failure of socialist governments everywhere, they bleat that they were not really socialist. Bit sad and pathetic that they cannot own up to the obvious flaws and errors in their thinking.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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14 September 2010
08:5270503barry
you are twisting the argument, the discussion was about how many socialist/communist governments there are now.
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14 September 2010
08:5570504Merely putting it into context Howard, you after all made reference to the last 13 years.....
Keith Sansum1
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14 September 2010
10:1070514BARRYW;
Im looking forward to 18 months time
the in between time aint going to be grand, but 18 months we can be rid of this cobbled together government
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14 September 2010
11:0870526#5 We agree there is more than one then, good.
#8 Not twisting the argument, just developing it.
Barry, from his posting #2, I think Howard is under the illusion we didn't have a socialist government for the last 13 years, hence my comment re selective memory.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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14 September 2010
11:1270528SID ME OLD MUCKER;
Labour govt yes,
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14 September 2010
11:1870530Ah, so Labour are no longer socialist. Pray tell brother, when did you come down from Mount Sinai?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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14 September 2010
11:2170532They are socialist
me, im having my own life
far better
dip in and out when i want
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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14 September 2010
12:5870553sid
perhaps you should reread the original post from bob.
14 September 2010
16:0670568I seem to remember our brothers, and occasionally representatives of me (as a Union member), showing 'solidarity' with many 'worthy' causes.
Surely now is the time for them to show their solidarity with Cuba.
Brothers, cast off your chains, your time has come.................
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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14 September 2010
16:0970569BOB
you may jest
but there are serioius anti trade union stuff coming up
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14 September 2010
16:1170572Time to kill off an old fashioned idea I say.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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14 September 2010
16:1370574Far from old fashioned mate (Sid) needed more today under this cobbled together 18 month government than any other time
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14 September 2010
16:2570582Keith. Not joking - just rather cynical.
I have always been a member of a union since I became employed. I want a body basically to bargain for my salary and hold my hand if management are having a go at me. End of tale.
Were I to give a damn about racism, sexism, politics, liberation struggles (various - WTF is Nicaragua anyway?) I shall happily do so through the ballot box or individual action.
Unfortunately, having looked at reports from the TUC conference, we are looking at a load of self aggrandising 'class warriors' fighting a war that has already been won.
If I were them, I'd be looking for a surrender document which does end in total humilation?
Given that (in the absence of any Socialist states - apart from North Korea) we are in a choice between Jihad and McWorld I'm surprised that the brothers are going for Jihad, especially when based upon sociology (Marxism) rather than religion (fill in!).