Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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UKIP leader Nigel Farage went to Scotland on Thursday in an attempt to make headway among the Scots.
In Edinburgh's Royal Mile, where he was hailing journalists, the United Kingdom Independence Party leader was surrounded by several hundred people and had to beat a retreat escorted by the Scottish Police.
His attempts to make a retreat in two different directions in as many taxis had already been aborted by the crowd, and after he was expelled from a pub, the Police had to forcefully enter the same pub with Nigel Farage in order to barricade him inside for his own safety.
He was later driven from The Mile in a Police van.
As I mentioned a few weeks back on the Forum, The United Kingdom Independence Party leader had made a high-horse speech in Scotland in which he appeared as an Englander and not as the leader of a United Kingdom party campaigning for the Union.
While the motives of the protesters who drove him out of The Mile were clearly questionable, what is remarkable is the fact that no Scottish crowd had gathered to greet Nigel Farage and cheer him on, or to listen to him, apart from the journalists with whom he had made arrangements.
His previous Englander-only attitude towards the Scots did him no favours, when he made his "tally-ho" speech about Scottish independence and how England would not hand over a bag of money to Scotland if the Scots voted for independence.
Quite clearly this "all about money" attitude had not gone down well with the Scots, who would have expected a leader of a party claiming to represent the United Kingdom to behave impartially towards all constituent countries of the Union and to behave like a British leader, advocating unity with a sense of pathos and not bickering about money.
The Scots may have concluded that Scotland is low in the esteem of Nigel Farage and that he is by admission an Englander only.
The result was that, this time round, no crowd came out to greet him, except to chase him off.
Keith Sansum1
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unfortunatly alexander that was an error of judgement on farrage's agenda, but you cant faukt the guy for trying
but people dont forget
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the scots have their own independence movement, doubt if ukip would ever make inroads there.
Terry Nunn
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Interesting that the "mob" called him a racist and told him to "Go back to England"!
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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With his penchant for, " anger... hatred... shouting... snarling... swearing..." Nigel should have felt quite at home...alas no.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/17/nigel-farage-fascist-scum-protestersIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
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Would seem the Caledonians have not softened towards the English
hopefully that will be reflected in their vote for Independence.
Audere est facere.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I can see how, Martin, that if you were to hang onto Nigel's every word, you could form that conclusion.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i blame mel gibson for stirring things i remember him in that documentary about william wallace.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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It is also strange that Nigel Farage went to Scotland, among other campaigns, to campaign for the European Union elections in 2014.
Wasn't he supposed to be against Britain's membership of the EU?
Yet he seems to place so much on EU elections to win seats in the EU parlament.
I wouldn't vote for the EU parliament if people paid me to!
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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The reason ukip campaign to get in to the European parliament, is to destroy it from within .
They do this very affectively,
Exposing the corruption abuses and theft, and generally slagging them all of,
Much to the amusement of millions of followers on YouTube
Ukip will campaign all over the uk ,and stand candidates in all elections
The stopping of politicians from free speech, should disturb all of us that value free speech and freedom.
axles you say
In Edinburgh's Royal Mile, where he was hailing journalists, the United Kingdom Independence Party leader was surrounded by several hundred people and had to beat a retreat escorted by the Scottish Police.
several hundred ???
Just look like a bunch of labour party thugs to me
The sooner Scotland have there referendum the better,
If the referendum was reversed the Scottish would probably get a shock.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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keithb
you forgot to add ukip MEP's also pick up there big pay packets from the same body
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Is that it?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith B, the figures in your link or these here?
Check out this link and see what happened along the Royal Mile.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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well im sure farrage and all his cronies are happy to pick up there big pay packets
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Keith he was voted by the public to do the job
A mans got to eat,
do you have any comments on the corruption ,or the EU accounts not being sighing of for the past 18 years .
Or the destruction of democracy, or the lack of a referendum for the British people
Probably the lack of outrage by your labour party at these issues, is a factor in there popularity and membership dropping .
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith B, Labour's popularity in the polls has dropped from 45% to 34% in the past months as more people realise that Labour, the LibDems and the Conservative component of the Cabinet are all supporting the same basic ideas and voting in favour of the same bills in Parliament.
Millions of former Labour voters are abandoning Labour and not voting at all, and a fair number have gone over to supporting UKIP.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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In fact, in the opinion polls, all those who say they would not vote any party, are considered as having given their preference to one of the three mainstream parties.
Labour's real support in an opinion poll is much, much lower than 34%: it's about 14%.
The truth is, that at parliamentary by-elections the majority don't vote anymore.
So at, say, a 40% turnout, even if Labour got 40% of the votes, in reality they received the vote of 16% of the voting constituency.
Labour is a minority party like all other political parties. The vast majority of people do not support Labour.
Brian Dixon
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opinion polls are only opinions nothing else.an opinion isn't a law or part of the constition.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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We will always have the 2 main parties
then others pop in and out like UKIP
and now the lib dems pick up the crumbs with other small parties
on europe yes it needs modernising/correcting
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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your playing with figures to suit yourself again alex, remember your claim that ukip would get 68% of the vote in the recent kent county council elections.
