Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Para 1, ........or for the benefit of her political career.
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Re post 14 and 15 it took a minute or two to twig...daughter of Duncan Sandys, I take it thats who you mean. I remember the name of old but cant put a face to it..wasnt he a minister?? I'm headscratching here...
and related to Churchill..well I never ..never knew any of that. I thought she was just local girl made good but of course there is very little of that nowadays, everyone seems to be bussed in. However she seems a very good and active MP , very very busy indeed and an excellent communicator.. as Howard mentioned earlier. Very grateful that she sends information through to us here on Doverforum, helps to keep us all, members and readers, in the loop and all involved.
Nothing wrong in being concerned on green issues. The Conservative Party themselves changed their party logo to a tree in recent times, that itself was a green thing.
Here is another picture below..taken during the Pfizer negotations, it shows Ruth McKernan of Pfizer, Two-Brains(David) Willets Minister for Science, and Laura Sandys Mp Thanet South.
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He was married to Churchill's daughter so that makes Laura Churchill's grandaughter, I think

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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Are we not all related to Genghis Khan? If not he to some ape or other.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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with that sort of background the pull of polticics would always have been there.
wikipedia says that she has wrongly been described as related to churchill.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Don't trust Wiki - Jan is correct, Duncan Sandys was indeed married into the Churchill dynasty,.
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Looks like we are both wrong Barry in a way, she is the daughter of his second wife.
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Back to the topic, my understanding is that your energy company will write to you and inform you of the best deal for you that THEY offer. They will not act as a comparison site for other providers so it is still limiting the information.
I am left wondering why they do not simply transfer you to the best rate and be done with it.
Is this just another example of the wonderfully skewed version of privatisation that we have where the much vaunted promise of the benefits of competition is smothered in confusion and it is the provider, and not the consumer, who gains.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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It`s a latent kartel.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Ahhh Jan - all cleared up then...
You miss the point Mark - under the present system you can change suppliers and it will be easier if each is expected to inform you of their cheapest deal.
What Reg dismisses as a 'latent cartel', utter rubbish incidentally, is at least better than being subject to a state monopoly that offers no choice at all and no opportunity to take your business elsewhere.
I choose not to use any of the 'big 6' and I am very pleased with prices and service. In fact every time I do a Sainbury shop it knocks money off my energy bill....
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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in effect it is, the prices rarely vary.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Quite right Mark.
One figure from each as to their best price and ease of passage to and from, job done.
What howls we hear as to the cost of canvassing, of postal votes etc., but when it comes to post for every household in the country via this energy-supply-'cartel' it's all jolly good fun.
As with other aspects of policy and legislation of all governments over the past twenty years or so, all the hard work will be done by industry-lobbyists. This startling success will yield us just as much as the industry prefers.
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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I think it would probably be asking too much Mark for the various companies to point out that you could get a better deal with a rival. In an ideal world perhaps but the world is far from ideal as we know. All they are obliged to do now is to offer you the best deal available from their own point of view.
Very few people bother to change supplier, so this might help those reluctant to move. Only something like 30% of all consumers have ever changed supplier. That leaves a vast horde of people who could benefit by having this cheaper option ponted out.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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The best deal would have been to return ownership of the utilities and transport back to the British public, unfortunately the majority labour government weren't interested
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'Public ownership', so called, solves nothing and creates an inefficient state monopoly and far higher prices.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Yes Barry expensive over priced gas and electricity, I remember those days wouldn't won't to go back to them days when profit went back in to the grid instead of the shareholders pockets.
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Water and Energy will soon need to be in safe hands............
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - there were no profits from state run industries and that did not make them cheap. A state monopoly is not immune to the workings of the international energy markets.
The State are not safe hands but the worse possible hands. Think back to the terrible days of the 70's.