Neighbour From Hell
- Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,321
17 October 2008 10:137665I thought that I might take some time to document some happenings over the past few years.
I have a neighbour (hereinafter referred to as NFH) who considers himself to be a minor "Godfather". Fagin would be a better epithet. In fact he sometimes jokingly assumes that title. For example a local person maintains that her husband was once one of his "boys" and the NFH referred to him as "My Oliver" indicating that he was the only one that wouldn't steal for him. NFH still has a small army of boys some of which are almost adult.
NFH rarely does anything himself it is always his "boys" that do it. The one exception being one day when in a fit of temper he threw some dog's mess over my garden wall narrowly missing the washing on the line. This was witnessed by a third party and NFH was given a warning by the police.
Why is he so antagonistic you ask? The answer is twofold, first is the King's Hall and the second is the London Road Community Forum.
Although there had been problems for a few years, things really came to a head when the licence for the King's Hall was due for renewal. Details can be found here:-
http://www.dover.gov.uk/councillors/council_meetings/update/docs/AGENDA-LICENSING-290703.pdf
I grant that there had been problems in the past with noise but the owner, Brian Ward, went to a good deal of work and expense in sound proofing the place such that it now meets the requirements of DDC's Environmental Health Department.
I went along to support the King's Hall. I have to say that living next door to it has never been a problem for me.
As regards the LRCF, NFH views it as usurping his position as local Godfather. "Leave it to me, I'll sort it out" is his common saying.
It was soon after the Licensing Session that the locks on my front door and the King's Hall were super-glued. Slates on the extension at the rear of the hall were smashed with odd bricks etc being hurled at them. In one instance a scaffold pole was thrust through piercing the ceiling inside. This was witnessed by a resident who refused to report the offender fearing the repercussions. New doors were fitted to the hall which immediately became the target for egg throwing.
Eggs have also been thrown at my property, some were wrapped in handbills that had been distributed advertising an LRCF event. One hit my front window, the other hit the wall next to it. The egg stains on the wall remain to this day as I can't clean it off. The house is yellow brick that has darkened over the years. To clean the egg off would leave bright yellow bricks. On another occasion an egg actually broke a small window at the back of the house. It was the window at the top of the stairwell which was a mix of coloured and engraved glass. It was an engraved panel that was broken.
In August, a weighted tin was thrown through a back bedroom window covering the beds with broken glass. I have a video of NFH calmly watching as one of his boys performed the act. The boy was wearing a hoody and cannot be positively identified. When questioned by police NFH said that he couldn't recall the incident and that he wouldn't have seen it anyway as he is only partially sighted!
In an effort to discredit me, he launched a campaign a couple of years ago alleging that I was homosexual. His boys would call out to me in the town "Terry Nunn takes it up the bum". The phrase was also aerosoled along Barton Path. I was also assaulted and given a kicking late one night by two lads who appeared to know my routine, during the assault they said "F***ing Poof" . Now where could that have come from if not from him? As recently as two weeks ago, I was locking the King's Hall gates at 10.30 when one of his boys left his flat. NFH called out "Go on, hit him. Hit him hard". The only reason he didn't was that he spotted that I had two foot heavy chain in my hand.
We have had two new windscreens because of what appear to be air gun pellets. What else would make a neat 5mm round indentation overnight? Food has been left inside my gate on at least two occasions causing my dog to be violently ill.
Minor but annoying things have also happened. A jar of instant coffee was thrown at the car. Some of it went into airway, the car stank for weeks. Kitchen detritus is thrown over the wall, I'm fed up with cleaning baked beans off the steps.
I could go on but what's the point. He seems to have a charmed life and I don't know why. I really get wound up when PCSO's and Community Wardens chat to him. "He's useful" they say, "He gives us information".
And people wonder why I want to move.
TerryQuis custodiet ipsos custodes? - Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,321
17 October 2008 11:447668..............and before Howard asks, I couldn't possibly say who I am referring to.
TerryQuis custodiet ipsos custodes? - 17 October 2008 11:487669I know who I am voting for, but I wouldn't like to say online. (And no, this isn't the wrong thread).
- 17 October 2008 11:557670That's bloody awful, Terry. God knows how you put up with vermin like that.
- Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,321
17 October 2008 12:107671Yes Phil, quite unrelated, I know who I am voting for also.
TerryQuis custodiet ipsos custodes? - 17 October 2008 18:047685Terry this is absolutly disgusting!!!! You should not be having to put up with this behaviour, and it SHOULD be being dealt with.
He may well be a good source of information to the community wardens and PCSO's, but at a major cost to the basic right to live a quiet life by yourselves and others.
I am totally apalled that nothing appears to be being done to help the victim, and yet the perpertraitor appears to be reveared in some way.
SOMETHING NEEDS DOING AND FAST!!!!
THIS SITUATION IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE !!!
- 17 October 2008 19:057687If you get elected Mandie a first job for you .I know who the person is and I have to meet with him ??
- Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
17 October 2008 19:167689The sooner the police stop this sort of double standard and protect the decent law abiding citizens from this sort of of thing the better"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi - 17 October 2008 20:497702Totally agree Ross.
Sue. If I were to be elected. I would fight tooth and nail on this one.
It beggars belief that after so much evidence has been gathered that nothing has been done, and someone has to be held accountable for it, and act on it appropriatly by removing the problem.
No-one should have to feel bullied into wanting to move away from an area they obviously love, respect and work hard to protect.
I truly am appalled. - 17 October 2008 22:467707not really a job for councillors.
the council and police have done nothing so far, nothing to suggest that anything will change.
alternative action is called for.
i will speak one to one with terry next time i see him. - 18 October 2008 07:427717Perhaps the reason nothing has been done is because the last councillor wasn't about much.
I gotta be honest and say that until VERY recently I had never even heard of the last guy.
I do know lots of councillors by name and face, but this one, not a twinkle. Would be interesting to know what committee's this person was on, how often he attended meetings at DTC or supported local events.
No disrespect Howard, but you cannot assume that just because one councillor FAILED to help, that another one cannot actually have anough backbone to follow it through.
Would be interested to hear what your "alternative action" is. - Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,321
18 October 2008 07:557718I did bring this issue up on the old DoverWeb. It appeared that the police were keeping their collective ears to the ground by reading it. Anyway, it culminated with a meeting at my house with a couple of neighbours and a police Sgt.
At one point it was suggested that I might be making a mountain out of a molehill because on looking at the computer only two complaints could be found. At the time I didn't understand that as only 18 months before we suffered an £800 loss during a burglary. Also not mentioned was my assault but was a seperate issue, I reported that in person the following morning. The lady behind the counter (now left the force and certainly not my friend Jano) took down the details on a piece of paper and then apparently filed it in the bin. Oh well, it keeps the crime figures down!
Not hearing anything about my last problem I phoned a nice guy at Bouverie House. He gave me an update. I casually remarked that there should be "op info" on my name and address. He said that he couldn't find any.
He then explained that the computer only keeps records for a year. Any copper looking me up won't see several years of problems. All that is filed away on paper in the bowels of Bouverie House.
The current case against him probably won't get anywhere. The missile thrower cannot be identified and although NFH watched it happen he claims he couldn't have seen it being only partially sighted. It will only stand on it's merits as a minor offence without any history being taken into account.
There is one other thing. It seems that he has a voluntary job with DDC. Part of it I understand involves inspecting old ladies houses. How can he do that if he is partially sighted?
I will not sit down and be quiet.
TerryQuis custodiet ipsos custodes? - Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,321
18 October 2008 08:327719While I have a captive audience it might be worth mentioning that the LRCF will be holding a committee meeting on Monday 20th October starting at 8pm in Blakes, Castle Street. Members of the public are very welcome to attend and take part.
I did think that as we have a by-election coming up we might ask all the candidates to come along and give a brief presentation. But then we shouldn't get into politics. Candidates are welcome nevertheless.
TerryQuis custodiet ipsos custodes? - 18 October 2008 08:367722Hi Terry. I know I am asking a silly question of you here, but do you keep a log of dates,times, etc???
Times and dates of incidents, meetings, calls to police etc.
If you do, keep it going. If I get onto the town council. You are going to be one of my first ports of call, whoever should get elected needs to make you one of their TOP priorities.
You should not have to endure this trouble from someone I can only see as nothing more than an out and out bully.
I am lost for words that there has been little or NO action from those agencies put in place to help combat stuff like this.
Lv Mand x - 18 October 2008 08:377723Terry, as long as Blakes do not mind having children there. I should be able to make it.
lv Mand x - 18 October 2008 08:557724Terry Im positive I know to whom you refer ......I cannot comment too much .This business Im working for the council is not quite true.I will keep my eyes and ears open as if it is the same person action will be taken
- 18 October 2008 08:557725Terry Im positive I know to whom you refer ......I cannot comment too much .This business Im working for the council is not quite true.I will keep my eyes and ears open as if it is the same person action will be taken
- Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,321
18 October 2008 08:577726The answer Mandie is that I have several kitchen calenders with the details on.
For your info, a former cllr did take up my case. He and I went up to what was DASBU. Later, he, not me, had a letter from them stating that in their opinion it was not a case of anti social behaviour(!) and that each incident should be dealt with by the police on a case by case basis.
I did at one time give up reporting as sometimes I would get an incredulous person at Maidstone say "You're reporting rubbish being thrown over your wall?" in a manner that made me feel I was wasting police time.
I also kept a DASBU diary. About two weeks after I sent it in they phoned me to ask if anything else had happened. I said no. I then got a letter saying that they were glad it had been resolved!
As to the meeting, no problem, it will be in the restuarant area on the ground floor.Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? - 18 October 2008 09:197727Thanks for all the info Terry, much appreciated.
If I get elected. I will not be fobbed off with "Not anti social behaviour".
It blooming well is anti social, and needs to be dealt with properly.
Bottom line is, that so far it has been brushed under the carpet, and wether it be me who gets elected or anyone else, they need to push to get it sorted properly. You should not have to live this way.
lv mand x - 18 October 2008 09:247728Terry, this is appalling! I am sorry you are suffering so much. What a **** this man is.........sadly, this is further evidence that despite the presence of some good cops, the police can be relied on to fail us ordinary people. The Letter of the Law is sometimes not enough. I hate to ask this (please don't shout at me!!) but have you tried our MP?