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    Keith gets called an idiot and it was infered that I was unintelligent, we only get serious debate if we agree with nasty rightwing ideas it seems. Talking of such things David Cameron has been on the tellybox today with more attacks and spin, why does he bother? It was all a bit trite and naff. He banged on about getting rid of Labour coz they are bad and started bad stuff [he couldn't expain how that brought about the probs at Fanny Mae, Freddie Mac, Lehmans and in Iceland] and if we had them in we'd have a better society [doesn't he know that there is no such thing as society and if they get in they'll try to smash communities and cut public spending to make matters worse] and he said Labour arent doing anything to help the economy [aint they spent weeks rubbishing Labour's package]. This is a do nothing [spin] line coz they've been acused of having a do nothing approach because they oppose the case of doing something, and would do nothing if they were in power.

    Again, why is Cameron making these [it seems never-ending] speeches when he's got a a economics spokesperson? I think most independent thinkers would agree that in 1997 the Labour opposition front bench looked like a government in waiting, the Tories at the moment dont have that air. On financial/ economic matters the Tories arent using Osborne and the media seem to get the Lib Dems' Vince Cable in when they need a comment. If theat's the best of the front bench bunch then they aren't cutting it.

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