Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
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#2
Madness, will the next ban be refillable salt and pepper pots to ensure they are also not tampered with. I bet some big oil packing business to be behind this absurd ban.
This is exactly the sort of petty infringement of choice that gives the EU such a bad name.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#3
Go for it Peter - idiotic laws deserve to be ignored when imposed by the unelected European Union fascists.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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This sort of madness Could be stopped if our standing conservative MP stopped voting with Cameron over continued EU membership
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Charlie's hands are tied as long as Dover needs Government/Cabinet goodwill to achieve a satisfactory outcome for the Port.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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BarryW.
I agree that we should put the finger up to many of these stupid, costly and damaging EU laws that many other countries simply ignore.
I do not want to divert from the thread or start an argument but I have to say that on many occasions regarding Tax Avoidance you defend them and become defensive about them because they are legal and you certainly would not agree benefit laws being ignored so don't you think you are being a bit hypocritical?
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Par for the course................
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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6&7, UK tax and benefit laws are proposed by OUR legislators and passed by OUR Parliament. Administrative orders issued by bureaucrats in a foreign country are not the moral equivalent of laws passed under the British Constitution. (IMHO).
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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"damaging to artisanal food makers. "
I had to read that more than once.
Admittedly, this does seem OTT, but I blame the lobbyists, they get things too much their own way in Europe and the UK.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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#10
what a wonderfull idea,so much so it makes you want to spit in the eye of the bureaucrats.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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brian
are you falling out of love with your bureaucratic friends in the european union?
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Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Peter.
"UK tax and benefit laws are proposed by OUR legislators and passed by OUR Parliament".
That does not mean WE have to agree with them.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#14
no howard,just being a cynic again.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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13. No but it means we have no moral grounds to disobey them.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 15............# 1.......``This sort of thing brings out my tendency towards civil disobedience``.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Entirely consistent, Reg. I respect our laws, but they can stick the petty foreign regulations where the sun doesn't shine.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#18
had a look around and this is just another "bent banana" type urban myth.
two things.
a) the ban has been brought in to protect consumers, restaurants buy a high quality bottle of olive oil then when it is used up refill it with a rubbish product.
b) portugal banned it independently in 2006 - they don't let the eu walk all over them like we do.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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as far as I am aware howard,they havnt crossed the channel yet.unless they slipped through the back door.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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This little story merely represents puff pieces put out by the press now and again.
Some are getting very agitated with this issue when they should be laughing at it because of the sheer surrealism of it all.
In the meantime fraud, damaging environmental policies, more fraud compounding even more fraud in the EU, mass unemployment, theft from bank accounts to bail Cyprus out and all the rest of it has been put on the back burner.
The reason that all three major parties are so against a referendum is the inconvenient truth that sadly, without our membership of this train wreck, the UK would be bankrupt within a week.
It pains me to say that We have no choice but to remain in.
We produce next to nothing, inflict damaging environmental laws on ourselves which makes multi-nationals turn tail for cheaper places to produce.
So as an example We have the situation where hopes for growth come from ridiculous areas - HS2, electric cars which nobody wants even with a free gift of five grand so expect that factory to close in the next year or so, no third runway let alone a forth at Heathrow, a low carbon economy, importing useless solar panels and wind turbines manufactured in other states.......etc. etc.
So like the way I always ask for proof of climate change and never get one single answer the same can be said of our departure from the train wreck -
How are we going to make ends meet if we leave?
