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6 October 2010
16:1073930 And does anyone know of this vessel, the `Koh-I -Noor`, seen leaving Dover. Built in 1892, she was the largest and fastest ship on the Thames at the time. From 1903, she ran from London to Dover, and after wartime service, was broken up in 1919. I wonder if she was competing for railway passenger`s on her trips to Dover?
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6 October 2010
16:1773931I always assumed that she just ran coastal trips and didn't realise that she did cross channel - reckon that was a choppy ride!!
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6 October 2010
16:2073932Sorry Paul, did mention above London to Dover, but don`t know about cross channel trips.
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6 October 2010
16:3573936Sorry me reading too quickly !!
Think they were extremely common in their days, running around the coast and stopping of in various towns, especially on Margate Pier and Dover Promenade Pier
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6 October 2010
21:5373989 The S.S. Autocarrier, the first purpose built car ferry pictured at Dover, and with a car being loaded by crane. She began working in March 1931, until replaced in 1947 by the Dinard, and eventually being withdrawn in 1954. She was put into service by the Southern Railway in response to Captain Stuart Townsend, chartering a coaster called the `Artificer`, and starting a new service to Calais from the Eastern docks in 1928.
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7 October 2010
12:3074047Great pics, Colin.
The Autocarrier was my Grandad Stevens' very first ship.
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8 October 2010
19:0574275 A delightful, original Edwardian, triple view coloured post card here which I`ve just got hold of. I`m not familiar with how exactly they managed to colour them in those days of black and white, but it seemed to be a popular practice. Anyone with an answer here?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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8 October 2010
19:2774287i am trying to think here about how far they could go up the thames on their journey from dover to london.
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19:3774297Tower Bridge I`d have thought Howard. Not so sure they`d be the passenger traffic any further down towards the estuary. But then again, I`m sure the train would`ve been alot quicker?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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8 October 2010
19:4074298that sounds about right colin, i would imagine that people would have enjoyed the trip however slow it was.
much the same as today where pleasure boats on the thames compete as a relaxing alternative to life in the fast lane of london.
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24 October 2010
14:3676386Postcard below showing Koh-i-noor was on sale on Ebay recently (I was outbid, curses). Shows her alongside the Prince of Wales pier in 1911. A millionaire's yacht can be seen on the right of the photo and the small railway station built for the German transatlantic liners can be seen at the end of the POW.
"Koh-i-noor was a sumptuous ship, boasting a promenade deck that ran for some 300 ft from stem to stern and dining facilities for 200 passengers at one sitting. Other facilities included electrical lighting throughout, a post office, a hairdresser's, two bathrooms, as well as a book stall and fruit stall. At the time she was the largest and fastest paddler on the Thames and was built at a cost of £50,000. On her trials she achieved 19.5 knots and was known as the "Jewel of the Thames". Initially running from Old Swan Pier to Southend and Clacton, Koh-i-noor was later transferred to the Tilbury - Margate service where she became known as the one of the "Husband's Boats", along with Southend Belle. This title refers to the men from Essex and Kent who worked in London during the week and, finishing at mid day on Saturday, would catch a "Husband's Boat" to take them home to their families. Koh-i-noor was due to have new boilers fitted just before the outbreak of the Great War, but in the event this did not happen and after sailing back to her builders for the work to be done, she was laid up for the duration and never again entered service, being cut up at Morecambe in 1919."
http://freespace.virgin.net/tom.lee/kohinoorimg.htm
Several photos of her in Dover from the Bob Hollingsbee and Dover Museum collections with the legend "The time of taking must be during the early 1900s as the Admiralty Harbour breakwater is still under construction.The Koh-i-noor called there about four times a week between 3pm and 4pm once the Prince of Wales Pier was opened in 1903 and continued to do so till 1914 on a route that ran Tilbury-Southend-Margate-Ramsgate-Deal-Dover and back."
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26 October 2010
16:4176738A nice view there Ed, and lots of interesting information. The picture I posted of the Koh-I-Noor shown above comes from a book I bought back in the 90s, and I`ve never really given it a second look, like a number of things I have, until the forum came along. I must admit I often forget to look on ebay for material, but I managed to grab those Connaught Park picture`s recently. I also notice on Ebay, some high starting bids of £29.99 for certain Dover views, though I doubt if they`re one off original`s which would make them worth bidding on.
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26 October 2010
16:5776740The vast majority of my collection is from eBay and it is quite amazing how far afield Dover items end up !!
This one was from Australia - HMS Eden broke her moorings on 28th January 1910, was raised and sunk later in France in 1916
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Hi Kath - just found this discussion.
I cannot be 100% certain of course but I think the Robert Golder you mention achieved his Masters Ticket in 1861 (Second Mate 1858 and First Mate 1860). Born Ringwould about 1837, poss. died June 1919 Dover. He married Louisa Upton at St Dunstan and All Saints Stepney in August 1865 and is recorded at Cliffe St Margaret in the 1871 and 1881 censuses (Master Mariner). Previous to his marriage, in 1861 (census) he is recorded at the Sailors' Home, Well Street, Tower Hamlets; later, in 1901, in Poplar (162 East India Dock Road - as 'Head' but with another family with a 'Head' - still a Master Mariner. In 1911 census he is recorded as a boarder at 14 Hale Street Poplar - a Night Watchman (aged about 74). Louisa died possibly October 1912 in Dover area. At least 3 children: Sarah A (abt 1867), Louisa S E (abt 1868) and Robert M (abt 1870) - all born St Margaret's.
If anyone knows where he voyaged to, ship(s) etc. or where i could find that info (nothing coming up in e.g. National Archives - although I may be searching wrongly) - then I would be very interested to hear about.
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