Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#1
Minister for education Michael Gove.
Now I never liked this man at first ,but I have warmed to him ,I think he is trying to tern the schools around ,and weed out the dross.
Brian Dixon
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#2
useing the wrong weed killer,and might be turnd over by the triffeds.
Keith Sansum1
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#3
looks like he caused the next rebellion
teachers say they are about to hit back
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#4
So do you agree Keith efforts to sort out the problems need to start?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#5
i think taking as many with you in a very complex forward system could be the way
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DT1- Location: Dover
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#6
I'm not even sure what this thread is about. I thought that I should, but I don't.
All that I can understand is that you like Mr Gove.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#7
what me??? no i dislike the bloke lol
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#8
The exam watchdog announced yesterday they are investigating the affair.
10,000 teenagers lost 6th form and college places over the GCSE English grade
boundaries due to last minute changes.
An independent inquiry is being sort.
Many believe the Education Minister Micheal Gove `backed` the exam boards in to a
corner that led to he decision to `shift`` the grade boundaries up.
Even the Tory chairman Graham Stuart of the Select Committee for Education is
concerned.
The decision to change the boundaries has `drastic consequencies`
The Government are now in complete disarray on how to award the exam board
`Franchises`before Chistmas to avoid complete disaster.....
.Gove is on a downward slope with a grade `F`......
DT1- Location: Dover
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#9
Yes it is a scandal isn't it Reg.
I feel sorry for all of the students that have had their work downgraded as a result of shortsighted political point scoring.
This year of young people that have 'failed' will be a part of Mr Gove's legacy. I would be interested to see how he backtracks out of this one.
He is now not only held in poor favour by the teachers but also by a whole cohort of students and their parents.
So perhaps this is the start of him removing the dross, i.e: himself.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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#10
Sadly the latest in a long disreputable line of Education Ministers stretching back to the early post war years that have played politics with education; the sooner we take the politics out of education by setting up some form of independent national governance structure the better
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
DT1- Location: Dover
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#11
Well put Ross.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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#12
But they never are independent are they Ross?
Why? because the majority of those appointed will be political or vested interest appointees.
The panels appointing will also be the same make up.
The principle may be honourable, the process will not be.
Watty
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#13
He appears to be doing his job, sorting out the schools,
And driving up standards, this is what we are paying him to do.
The bad incompetent teachers will complain,
They will have to perform better or get the boot.
Maybe he will dismantle the entire liberal political correct propergander clap trap coming out of the teacher training colleges.
Then we may get back to good old fashion methods that worked
Teaching true British history and respect.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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#14
Love your last paragraph Keith.
Watty
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#15
# 13 & 14 Oh Dear..soul mates!!!!!
Another view,part article Sunday Paper....
Do you ever have problems smoothing out the bottom of your tart pastry? A bubble forms, you flatten it, but it only pops up somewhere else. Just like Michael Gove. Up he comes with one grisly idea, it's rejected, but he pops up with another one, equally horrid, and now, while everyone's been looking the other way at You Know What, he's come up with a corker: teaching qualifications are no longer necessary.
I don't like to spread panic unless I absolutely have to, but looking at Gove's pop-up initiatives, I think we ought be keeping our eye on the bubbles. He has brought us King James bibles for every school, religious backers for academies, any backers for free schools, discarded standards of nutrition, dredged up O-levels again, building programmes wrecked, and now any old know-all can come teaching. Hey come in, all you redundant politicians, businessmen, scientists, (particularly forensic, because we all love CSI), bankers, soldiers, statisticians, boiler-makers, dog-trainers, customs officers and police superintendents, and teach classes of 30-plus. It's a breeze! Sod classroom management and child psychology and development. Perhaps you non-teacher teachers can create a new generation of fat, fundamentalist, obedient, well-informed, unemployed long-term debtors.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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#16
If Gove is annoying the teachers then he's doing the right things!
I spent 35 years working in a university and seeing the drop in standards of the students being turned out with A-levels over the years, even had students doing science degrees who couldn't work out 10% of a figure when they had to do it independently and get it right first time - like the real world, not the way exams are run today.
I've just heard a parent talking about their son being half a percent off A* rating for an A-level, "but it's alright, the school won't cash it in until he's retaken the module causing problems" - GRRRRRR!!!!!
DT1- Location: Dover
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#17
Why if he is annoying teachers would he be doing the right things?
What do think teachers want to do Ray? What do you think parents want, what do you think young people want?
Let's extend this idea; if the government upset Doctors then they are doing the right thing in NHS reforms; if they upset single parents they have done the right thing by social reform.
I fall within the very 35 year bracket that you display such contempt for (one that saw much political tampering) and although I feel things are not perfect, my generation have had to adapt just as fast as yours.
If I can teach anyone of your generation something, does that make you all inferior? Let's (for the sake of your argument) hope that all posters here that can't spell, are younger than 30, otherwise your simplistic argument falls apart.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#18
getting back to the issue of non qualified teachers, would any of us employ someone to do our plumbing that had never passed an exam in it?
DT1- Location: Dover
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#19
I also find it amazing to preach the concept of 'respect' within such diatribe.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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#20
DT1 - no contempt for the students, just for the politicians who have sold them down the road for the statistics and the teachers who have acquiesced as long as their results looked better than last year.
