Mayor Sue Jones

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• Rick Jones

  • Location: Dover
  22 September 2009     21:5829270
  #1      
  From the homepage (quote)
  
  "I do not think it is right to show the Mayor leting her hair down, By all means have agood night out on her birthday but not put it in the public eye like it has been on the forum,she is this year in a high public office, and should only be seen as the public would expect.This does not mean she is not making a good mayor but she must be seen as a mayor for that year 24/7
  
  Vic Matcham, 21 September 2009 at 12:31 pm"
  
  Vic, can I assume that you dislike a lady with tattoos? I can think of nothing else that you would find offensive about the photos of our mayor having a bit of a knees up on her birthday? Quite frankly I am amazed at your comments and want to brign them out on the main forum. I have never met Sue (but I hope I do one day) and I have to say that I've noticed her tattoos too, and her seemingly very down-to-earth appearance. She looks like "one of us", a "real" person, a real Dovorian, instead of some pimped-up ultra clean-cut impression of officialdom which few can actually live up to anyway. I think those photos of Sue and her daughter having a good night out are great - and good for Sue for being spirited enough to embrace her individuality and show off her body art! The very fact that she is a tattooed mayor is really ACE! I think this thing "only looks bad" to you if you yourself have an issue to deal with. Dover found these matters so irrelevant and inoffensive that the lady made it to the top job and more power to her elbow.
  
  And what, please tell me, does the "public expect"? Why should this lady not be seen letting her hair down? She doesn't appear to be drunk, dancing naked on club tables, snogging a bartender, or performing indecent acts of any sort. She is merely out with her family, cutting a cake, with a few balloons in the background. If these three harmless images betray public expectation then I would love to know why. I am on the opposite side of the fence to you, I would much rather our public officials DID show their more human, down-to-earth lives a bit more as it makes them more accessible and engaging.
  
  Sue Jones, I don't know if you read the forum but you're alright by me girl
  An happy 40th - mine is next year so you have my sympathy
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 62,352
  22 September 2009     22:1229271
  #2      
  i think that you are reading more into vic's post than was there rick.
  
  i do not remember him mentioning tattoos, it was his opinion that a mayor should always appear in public in a more formal manner.
  
  vic may correct me on this.
• Guest 672

  • Registered: 3 Jun 2008
  • Posts: 2,119
  22 September 2009     23:3229272
  #3      
  Hmmm, one of those posts you can read a lot into it.
  Vic has his point of view and Rick has his.
  
  Sue has been very good within her role as mayor and a few comments were made in the early days as to something I wont mention again.
  
  Now my point of view.
  
  WHY can't a person of any standing let their hair down in public with or without tattoos, It's a 40th birthday party and a 21st birthday party for gods sake. ( I never got an invite by the way )
  
  Was any crime commited?
  Did she let herself doown in public ( private )?
  Did everyone enjoy the event? I bet they did
  
  If Howard was to be elected mayor next year and he enjoyed a bit of naked hang gliding at the weekends would you also complain at that too Victor.
  
  Apart from being a public figure, a person also have to be themselves. Please remember that. I think I'll leave it at that.
  
  Ian...
  grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
• Rick Jones

  • Location: Dover
  22 September 2009     23:5429274
  #4      
  I did say very clearly that I am making an assumption that Vic disliked the tatts - simply because I can see absolutely nothing else which might have offended him in those pictures. Not a darn thing. Unless, of course, Vic doesn't like the concept of "socialising with family members" or "cakes" or "balloons". What else would have influenced his posting on the homepage?
• Bern

  • Location: Dover
  23 September 2009     06:1329275
  #5      
  So that was Howard I saw last weekend dangling over Western Heights.....................?
• Guest 668

  • Registered: 13 Apr 2008
  • Posts: 91
  23 September 2009     06:1629276
  #6      
  Maybe because you're not of the same era as Vic? It could be things were done differently in his time? Who knows!
• Guest 655

  • Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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  23 September 2009     07:2229279
  #7      
  I have to agree with Rick. I am no fan of tatoos, but I do like Sue and I think she is doing a great job as mayor. Her body decoration is not relevant and a mere fashion that I hope ends soon (though those with them are stuck with them).
  
  Like Rick I cant imagine any reason to disapprove of the photo otherwise and even then, so what.
• Guest 640

  • Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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  23 September 2009     09:3029288
  #8      
  Im glad someone brought up the tattoo thing as it is very relevent in a way. Before I put the pictures up myself I wondered how the tattoo aspect would go down. Some older peeps, as ChrisK indicated above, have a very different take on tattoos and they can be sniffed at in some quarters. I did ponder beforehand for a moment or two as did not want to show the Mayor in what some might see as a bad light. She will have detractors on account of the tattoos and I am aware of that. But life is life...if you have tattoos and you make it up to the top of the greasy political pole to be Mayor, than fair enough, you have already proved yourself.
  email: dover7@msn.com
• Guest 640

  • Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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  23 September 2009     10:2129289
  #9      
  
  email: dover7@msn.com
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 62,352
  23 September 2009     11:1329291
  #10      
  ian
  
  
  who told you about the hang glinding?
  
  i did not realise that i had been spotted.
• Guest 645

  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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  23 September 2009     11:1929292
  #11      
  Howard
  Whats "hang glinding"?.
  Is it a new sport?
  Tell us more!
  Marek
  I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
• Guest 660

  • Registered: 14 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 3,205
  23 September 2009     14:3529293
  #12      
  Hi Marek hang glinding is a new extreme sport,first you don't use your hands to hang on you use something a little further down it is painfull but seems to impress the ladies
  If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
• Brian Dixon

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 23 Sep 2008
  • Posts: 23,940
  23 September 2009     16:2729296
  #13      
  i used to work with older people with tattoos,some larger than others.mind you i was in my late teens early twentys at the time,by what i mean older they were in there 50s and 60s at thetime saw no harm in it.
• Guest 657

  • Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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  23 September 2009     17:0329297
  #14      
  Way to go Sue! There is absolutely nothing wrong with tattoos. I have ten myself, many are designs in memory of lost loved ones (I have no names or initials, that's just my choice.) I find them fascinating and have seen some incredibly beautiful artwork; they are a great conversation piece. Most people's perceptions of them have changed over the years, they are no longer the adornment of sailors or 'tramp stamps'. I'll still be rockin' my ink when I'm 80 and I am (as far as I know) the only UK memorial tattoo advisor.
  www.facebook.com/jeaneheadstonehunter
• Guest 649

  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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  23 September 2009     18:4429298
  #15      
  Howard you are right I said nothing about Tattoos,And I did not say she was not a good Mayor,I stand by what I said but some of you are reading some thing into it that is not there,so please go over it again and please read what I have wrote,and then put in your own words about it.I also said it was the way i feel about it and me only. Thank you.
  
  Vic Matcham
• Rick Jones

  • Location: Dover
  23 September 2009     19:3229304
  #16      
  Vic I am very aware that you didn't mention the word "tattoo" in your original posting so the point I want to get on top of is WHAT exactly it was about those three photos that prompted you to make your posting? When I ran DoverWeb I showed photos of George Alt (newly blinged-up after becoming Mayor) "letting his hair down" - no gold jewelery, no majestic robes, just George being George enjoying the after-party that I was lucky enough to be invited to. So why was that okay and this isn't? I'm merely suggesting that Sue's tattoos are the only logical thing that offend you, as nothing else would have prompted your posting.
  
  I have 10 tattoos, my wife has 2 (and they look bloody gorgeous on her) and if our new Mayor is a modern, individual, tattooed local girl then I call this a huge leap of progress and I am proud to have such a lady - a REAL PERSON - representing us!
• Guest 656

  • Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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  24 September 2009     09:2329321
  #17      
  Rick, Sue Jones is an avid reader of the Forum and will certainly have seen her celebratory birthday photos and I'm sure she will have loved them She is definitely very comfortable in her own skin and good for her, she looks lovely and does a great job as the Mayor of Dover
  
  Can't believe you will be 40 next year!
• Guest 674

  • Registered: 25 Jun 2008
  • Posts: 3,391
  24 September 2009     12:2729332
  #18      
  I will not get into if or not the present mayor has the official backing of the party as iv raised these issues before today.
  
  
  Iv never been a great fan of the set up of mayor, but its here to stay at present anyway so lets get the best out of it.
  
  There are those out there that believe in tradition and dress etc, and I do just wonder how many people would distance themselves? its just a viewpoint
  Ihave no strong views on how a person dresses/tattoo's etc but others do
• Bern

  • Location: Dover
  25 September 2009     20:5729412
  #19      
  PS - I am also tattoed. Big deal (literally in my case!!!)
• Guest 649

  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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  30 September 2009     10:2029548
  #20      
  Yes I do have very strong views on how a person in high office should be seen by the public nothing to do if that person has or not have tattoo,s but when in the eyes of the public that person has to look just right,this time it was a p/party so I do not think any photo etc should have been taken of her only for familys she was having agood time,and why not but photo of it seen by the public was not very good,,again just the way I saw it.

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