Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#21
just waiting for a lorry to misjudge coming out of there and ending going over the cliff.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#22
Govt probably best to act on this
About time a solution that's workable to locals is found
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
- Posts: 454
#23
Thank you for your email below and apologies for not responding to you sooner due to competing priorities.
I have now concluded from my current planning enforcement investigation, that on the balance of probability the land has been used as an HGV lorry park for more than 10 years so the current use by VEA lorry park does not breach planning control.
The freeholder said that he has run a lorry park at this site for over 20 years. He has now retired and rents it out to VEA. Historical photographs reinforce the likelihood that this is true. I believe the lorry park use wound down shortly before freeholder retired and now there is a new operator there are more lorry movements. Kent County Council Highways have confirmed that the site has had an HGV Operators licence for more than 10 years. I also checked with our Business Council Tax Section. Whilst no planning permission has been granted for the use, the fact it has been operating as an HGV lorry park for more than 10 years makes it now immune from planning enforcement action and is thereby lawful.
The VEA HGV operator cannot understand how he can be held responsible for the poor driving skills and alleged hit and runs by lorry drivers that might have come or gone to his lorry park. The issue that you have raised about highways strip of land opposite the site entrance having been cleared of vegetation and hardsurfaced has been forwarded to Kent County Council highways in order to ascertain if they have any concerns about it.
I trust this clarifies the situation, if however, you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to contact me.
Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
- Posts: 454
#24
Love the reply from DDC
I have e-mail him back pointing it was a long term/short term car park for ferries and cruise liners.
I found this link in a couple of minutes
https://www.airport-parking-shop.co.uk/dover/dover-port-parking-ferry.html
Then asked again does the has permission for change of use from car park to lorry park…
Also asked has he looked into the history of the car park .
Wonder if he asked any one local….
Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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#25
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#26
Is lorry park the answer Gary?
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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#27
Now we have a labour council saying they will listen to the locals will anything ever happen….
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#28
Let's see
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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#29
Oh dear another lorry stuck in the mud.. blocking the road.. I wonder long that cliff will survive before it collapses or a lorry goes over the edge…
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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#30
Those Labour councillors on the case ?
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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#31
Keith one of the previous labour councillors got voted back in and all I get is from the councillor is that my E-mails will be passed on.
Tonight I came home from work at 4.00 pm and I got stuck behind another lost lorry. Photo send to our local MP and labour councillor. Cannot remember when Aycliffe actually received anything positive from DDC..
Even the junction at the bottom of South Military Road is slowly being ripped up.
Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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#32
Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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#33
Lorry stop manager.. nothing to do with me…
He cut the verge back and opened the lorry park.. nothing to with him lol
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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#34
I understand your pain. Gary
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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#35
This is the state of the verge that the lorry park owner has cut back without permission which right next to the cliff edge. Lorries using to exit….
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#36
Gary
Are you in contact with all the new elected councillors for your ward ?
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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#37
Keith. We have one councillor from Capel who not know the local area and one from Temple Ewelll..
Having just read this I have no faith in DDC that Aycliffe will ever get any support like in the pass..
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/deal/news/new-labour-leader-reveals-plan-for-cabinet-287012/Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#38
District council , one lives st Marg tarts other in th e town
They are Biggs and Hills
You also have a number of Town cl lrs
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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#39
I now have both their e-mail addresses from the DDC website.
Interesting that the road to the Western Heights will even be busier with the plans for the citadel.
An accident waiting to happen…
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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#40
More problems on the horizon
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