Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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and its been full up lately as well.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 1713- Registered: 14 Mar 2016
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How about the lorry park in Menzies road? Or the lorry park near Elizabeth street? Facilities are there for the truck drivers but those that park in residential area etc are just to lazy or tight fisted to part with the £20 for 24 hrs of parking .
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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Both of those you mention are usually full to capacity as is the illegal Coombe valley one, currently a planning application is in to create a larger one on the back of the old park bks site but the nimbies are throwing their teddies about.
Arte et Marte
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To my mind the solution is to use part of the proposed lorry park for 'stack' at a realistic price with on site operatives to keep the site clean and trucks monitored, this would generate income and would be welcomed by truck drivers.
I personally restrict my driving in the UK to a minimum due to the lack of parking and adequate facilities.
There is very little point in penalising drivers for inconsiderate parking if an alternative isn't provided.
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Andy B
- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
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In reply to post 23,i quite agree they can be a pain in the arse but the problem is for many as pointed out to us by a Russian friend of ours who is a truck driver is that many of the Eastern Europe companys do not and will not pay night out money, i-e for truck stops etc,they get a cab with a bunk and that is it.If they wish to stay in parks they do so out of their own pocket.Even when a tyre blows out they will change it themselves unlike uk companys etc who can call out a fitter to do it for them.They are a tough bunch and are sometimes on the road for months not just a week or so.The money is much of a reason why they dont use truck parks.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Government drops M20 lorry park at Stanford!
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/hythe/news/lorry-park-plan-axed-135315/
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Highways England project director John Kerner said: “The disruption that people in Kent suffered in summer 2015 underlines the need for long term improvements to how traffic is managed when cross-channel services are interrupted.
“Improvements at the port, and changes we have made to traffic management on the A20 near Dover, have delivered real improvements and have also helped prevent Operation Stack from being implemented.
There hasn't been any serious long term action/inaction in France since the TAP system came in.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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i like to know how and where, more so habour board cock up and gets it wrong.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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As I've said before, in 2017, when everyone and his dog has a mobile 'phone and radio is able to give traffic announcements, it should not be beyond the wit of man to advise truckers to stay dispersed across the country, rather than setting off en mass down the M20, to discover to their surprise that the French are on strike again or that long forecast bad weather is affecting channel crossings, rather than 'tarmac'ing half of Kent for such eventualities?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:As I've said before, in 2017, when everyone and his dog has a mobile 'phone and radio is able to give traffic announcements, it should not be beyond the wit of man to advise truckers to stay dispersed across the country, rather than setting off en mass down the M20, to discover to their surprise that the French are on strike again or that long forecast bad weather is affecting channel crossings, rather than 'tarmac'ing half of Kent for such eventualities?
That is not how truckers think, if they arrive at their delivery point on a Saturday they will park outside until the warehouse/factory opens on Monday morning. Similarly if they have loaded up for export in the UK they will get as close as they can to Dover ready for when things start moving again.
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Button
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...and so they can be "up there" in the queue for a ferry with space or, in future, for customs processing in the continental channel port.
(Not my real name.)
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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Continued big £m earners for Manston owners & disaster for Sandwich, Deal & Whitfield.
Button- Location: Dover
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On, as things stand, a weekly if not daily basis. Plus port outbound traffic going miles out of its way, whilst Le Shuttle traffic doesn't have to. So how high do we rate the chances of traffic amicably doing that, vs chewing the fat with PoDP at the entrance to the Eastern Docks?
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Guest 1792- Registered: 2 Jul 2016
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Al1967 wrote:How about the lorry park in Menzies road? Or the lorry park near Elizabeth street? Facilities are there for the truck drivers but those that park in residential area etc are just to lazy or tight fisted to part with the £20 for 24 hrs of parking .
No it’s not a case of being “ lazy or tight fisted “ When Some Drivers like Eastern Europeans are only on around £200 a wk then it starts getting too expensive ,We are on a good wage but if my partener had to shell out around a ton + a wk then we d feel the pinch ,KCC should be making lay-bys like they have in France ,Spain etc ,It’s them that’s tight-fisted & lazy
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:That is not how truckers think, if they arrive at their delivery point on a Saturday they will park outside until the warehouse/factory opens on Monday morning. Similarly if they have loaded up for export in the UK they will get as close as they can to Dover ready for when things start moving again.
And HGV drivers would prefer to deliver in London during daytime Mon to Fri - except they are banned. Tough. Systems should be built around the convenience of the majority not around what drivers find convenient.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:And HGV drivers would prefer to deliver in London during daytime Mon to Fri - except they are banned. Tough. Systems should be built around the convenience of the majority not around what drivers find convenient.
Do try to understand the point being made it's not rocket science. It is not about actual delivery but being as close as possible when delivery can be made. Moving on, if say a truck was loaded in Cleckheaton for delivery to Paris nothing can stop the driver getting as close to Dover or Eurotunnel when he/she chooses to.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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would be nice to have a no parking ban on the entire a20. from round hill tunnels to docks.
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Guest 1033- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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It always seems so greedy the way our motorway services are run, captive customers and rip-off prices, just like everything else in the UK really.
The German autobahns have 'parkplatz' and 'rastplatz' at frequent intervals all over their motorway network, as do other eurpean countries too. Perhaps this sort of system might alleviate some of the problems in the UK, but it will never happen because there is so little scope for profiteering. (probably by MPs or their close families)