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  Jan T and all;
  
  Its not just about Opposition parties visiting or ministers themselves, lets recall that the Channel tunnel rail link coming to Dover would have been achieved by visits from ministers coming to Dover and Gwyn making sure Dover's case was heard
  on top of this councils/agencies all worked together to make sure they were all singing from same song sheet and it happened.
  
  So Paulb I wouldn't say these visits are not achieving because they do, we cannot isolate ourselves, as we do need the support of many other MP'S from all different parties across the country to help our cause
  
  
  On Jans comment on MP visits, all I can say is that when Gwyn was in opposition I did get an invite to ost of the MP's that visited Dover, LIKE baz I couldn't always attend but I did get an invite.
  At the end of the day does it matter who goes,? not realy,
  Like in all walks of life those MP's that come you get the best out of them in the short time there here.
  I saw realy good MP's and some not so good.
  I saw Mp's able to relate to local people and some not willing to.
  
  But you have to use everyone to the best of there ablities and get out of them all best uou can and if that means them visiting Dover so be it, many have vision, its how you channel them into Dover's vision while they are here.

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