Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
- Posts: 4,010
#1
Let's talk about UKIP
UKIP is dominating the political headlines. The Tories are tearing themselves apart over them and
Labour seem undecided as to how to react - and all the time UKIP are adding councillors to their
column and members to their ranks.
Initially launched to campaign for Britain to pull out of the European Union, UKIP is increasingly adopting
an aggressively anti-immigrant tone. The party has been whipping up scare stories about the impact
of immigration on Britain and, as its poster comparing the fate of the British to that of the Native American
Indian illustrates, depicts an apocalyptic future for white Britons that would be more at home in a far right leaflet.
And, just in the last few days, several UKIP councillors, including members of the Executive Council, have
been exposed for racist and offensive outbursts. What does this say about the party as a whole?
UKIP now has 205 county and borough councillors and the party could well come first in next year's
European Elections. This will only increase the temptation for mainstream parties to swing to the right
on immigration, integration and race.So what, if anything, should HOPE not hate do? I think we have five options:
UKIP is a major right-wing nationalist threat and so we should campaign against them;
UKIP's threat is cultural and so we should offer local communities an alternative vision of Britain
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#2
europe and immigration are entwined reg, even a poll for bbc newsnight suggested that we could see an additional 2 or 3 million from romania/bulgaria joining us next year.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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#3
HOWARD;
The figure is at the top end, and even farrage when questioned closely on this had to admit the figure more likely to be 100,000
although that is still high.
On the county council we hear already that crowther a recent tory cllr who was deselected by the tories, joined ukip and won the seat in sheppey has not ruled out rejoining the tories, shame for all those who voted for him against this govt
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#4
Labour's agenda has been to destroy British Identity.
That's about the long and the short of it.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#5
Labour's agenda - since the death of John Smith, their only principled leader in three generations - has been to sail with the prevailing wind in the hope of gaining or retaining power. Socialist principles (which I respect) have been sacrificed on the altar of political correctness. The Conservatives (as represented by DC/GO and Central Office are just as bad.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#6
LibLabCon are the same! For which reason the last of the trio must necessarily disappear.
The Government has allied itself time and again with Labour on all issues that are of great concern to the British Public.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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#7
#6 Then turn up at the polling station and register your disgust with all parties by casting a ballot for 'none of the above'. Its no good postulating from the sidelines.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#8
Neil, that would mean registering disgust for UKIP too.
I hope UKIP give the Government a sound thrashing!
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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#9
But you didn't vote man - you didn't turn up at the polling station or post a vote, you said so yourself. If you want someone to win, go and vote for them, if you want no one to win then go and vote for no one. Your vote is no good to anyone, not even you, if you don't exercise it.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
#10
Keith s post 3
Theirs already over 100 000 Supposed self employed in the uk today .
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#11
yeah out numberd by 50/1 by true brits.
Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
- Posts: 449
#12
Mr Hansell are you calling all members of UKIP, Racists?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#13
i think keith added 1 more nought than intended.
welcome peter not seen you post before.
Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
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#14
Thank you ,Mr.Mcsweeney for your welcome.
Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
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#15
No reply from Mr Hansell to my question.Perhaps its too late for him ???
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
#16
Ukip is not a racist party
It's not racist to say we are full, and services are at braking point for uk citizens.
It's not racist to say if you have medieval cultural differences that do not fit in with modern British society you need to stay in a country more suited to you.
The race card is played to stop open free speech.
Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
- Posts: 449
#17
Thank you Keith, for your honest statement..I see that Keith Sansum and Reg Hansell are spinning.As usual the Labour Party and Tories are combined in their deceit and lies to the British People...These 2 failed parties are running scared, they are not used to commonsense and truth.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#18
peter
reg usually posts during the daytime and keith s when he is not on shift.
i would agree with keith b that the subject should be debated without the usual "racist" slur being bandied about.
i was born in the london borough of newham and spent the next 30 years there, at the last count it was found that 25% of households had nobody that spoke english - imagine the true percentage if people could fill out a form.
Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
- Posts: 449
#19
Thank you,Howard for your excellent post...The problem is, the Con/Lab/Limpdims react to ordinary people who are concerned about migrants by calling the ordinary people,racists...The arrogance of the 3 failed old parties is overwhelming..That is why decent,hardworking people are turning to UKIP....UKIP are listening to the people.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#20
Brits are a minority in London.
London authorities are now deporting unemployed Londoners to the Shires where Housing Benefit is cheaper, so that Osborne can save some money on the London rent rip-off scene.
"The Government" wants to import 600 Afghan interpreters to the UK when British soldiers pull out there. with all their extended families. That would mean 600 council houses being taken away from the waiting list and handed over to an Afghan colony.
As these families each become a clan, their grandchildren will be living in 6,000 council houses, with 12 children per family.
Some people call our capital city Londonistan.
Boris Johnson and Ken Livingstone and the LibLabs and Cons are making sure the process is accelerated.
They no doubt have their eyes on Whitfield, Guston, Farthingloe and Sholden, and many other Kentish landscapes, to carry through their process of mass colonisation.