howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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But at least with any of these three you do get a local point of contact...or so I hear.
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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For once Mr Clegg seemed to be in the right place at the right time...he was away for the entire week in South Korea, where presumably he got up to no clangerisms..none that we have heard of anyway.
Mr Cameron previously seemed to have the best of the ratings. He was seen as a responsible individual with stature. It always was the case however, as we have seen since he came to power, that his ministers were not quite up to the same level. We saw more of this again last week, with Maude. Maude was removed quietly from the frontline lastweek..and was " no longer giving interviews" according to Newsnight.
The government, or more approriately the Conservative party, is suffering badly from the lack of a good frontline PR man. Cameron is a PR man but cant be everywhere. There is also a personality flaw with the Conservative Party Chairman, Baroness Varsi. Right now they need a good party Chairman. But she is excruciatingly bad at communication..rattling on blaming Labour for everything even the fuel cock-up. This is more embarrasing than helpful to the governments case. They also kept her out of the frontline during the week.
People are not generally thick and know full well where the cock-up was...also confirmed by polls yesterday sunday...saying otherwise like Varsi just annoys people even more. There is a time to play the political game and a time to draw in your horns and smooth things over.
News is circulating that she is soon to be heading for the open pastures of never never land...in other words she will be kicked into the long grass at the earliest convenience, hopefully.. for Conservatives ..to be replaced by someone with people skills.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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paul mentions baroness warsi, she featured in an article over the weekend on the lack of blue notherners on the front line and said that the party was looking like a southern club.
hague was mentioned but warsi is a gaffe merchant extraordinaire.
eric pickles seems to be getting pushed to the back despite him being a down to earth norvener from bradford now pronounced blackburn.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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It is good to hear that we do indeed exist in the best of all possible worlds and that any and all thinking otherwise need only to hear less of the 'he' and more of the "t'-" to be won over.
I saw a headline this morning to the effect that fewer children can find t' UK on t' map. I would not wish much to rest on a test as to whether I could pin-point t' Blackburn an' t' Bradford.
All roads may roam to Leeds, but thankfully getting quotations correct is not being tested either.
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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2 April 2012 - 3:13pm
Courtesy Sunday Independent..........
Backlash.....the voters verdict......81% tories caused panic..72% ministers are out of touch..71% against pastie tax...
Cameron has respite with Falkland 30 year anniversary....but with Argentina not capable of raising a fight with
Paraguay.......there are no Thatcher glory points to be had..............
With the muck and mire of the last two weeks will any stick?
Lansley and Maude are defending each others actions but it`s thought they are enroute with Varsi and Pickles....
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Yes indeed Reg thats the poll there I referred to earlier in post 3.. so well done getting those figures. I didnt know where to get them from but I did see them in passing on TV yesterday. They tell it like it is, the people out there know where the cock-up came from, so any amount of waffling to the contrary is damaging to the government... best to put the hands up when there is nowhere left to run.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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politicians can never own up to their failings, so much simpler to say "sorry got that wrong chaps", the flak would then die down quickly.
when they try to waflle the media have a field day dissecting every word that has been spoken.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Cameron still needs to come clean on the `donors`situation.......watch this space......
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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reg
this is a classic case of waffle, it would have been much better to have come clean, as it is the "sunday times" has come up with fresh allegations that dave has been economical with the truth.
Keith Sansum1
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the poll shows that the 3 main parties are in dire times
none of them can take much comfort
but for labour to be so fsar ahead of tories must be a worry for mr cameron
but all in all this should worry all 3 parties
funny how if your missing you get more support lol
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Mid-term polls are not a worry, we have been here before and this is not something to get worked up about at this stage in a Parliament. I am just surprised that it has taken so long to get to this point given what has to be done.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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not a worry wow
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Brian Dixon
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polls are such a bore,but hey its ok if youre a poll geek.
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If the poll shows that the three 'main' Partys are in a bad way with the public, and that the concern has to be centred on the Partys, then I don't suppose it need be a worry for them.
If this was about Scott and Amundsen then indeed why spare a thought for the Pole?
Only, it should not be about the Partys relative to each other. Again the people are an irrelevance in UK Politics.
Our Politicians are as smug as a bug in a rug.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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nothing wrong with the poles,they just a missunderstood race of people.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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A route to bad government is to govern only in the interests of good poll ratings and staying in government. Sometimes good government requires unpopular but necessary decisions and any government that avoids such decisions is not being responsible.
Some of the current poll ratings are due to some such difficult but right decisions, some from self-inflicted but avoidable wounds and some from just poor presentation. It will pass.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Did you type the last paragraph above Barry while on your knees at the bed-side, hands clasped together in prayer? [and typing with your toes...obviously]
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Just speaking from long experience Tom.
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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Barry
I am not so sure that things will pass. I sense a dissatisfaction with a political system which seems to favour the politician (and his or her cronies) over the electorate.
Years of abuse of power (by politicians of all hues) have resulted in many of the electorate disengaging from the political process and this is the damning indictment of the modern, political culture.
