Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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9 October 2010
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Latest in from DDC. A money saving coming together by three Councils.
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RECYCLING AND WASTE COLLECTIONS
Major changes to the way recycling and waste are collected for homes across the area are set to help Dover District recycle even more and reduce costs for the future - and are being considered by a special joint Cabinet meeting on 13 October.
Dover and Shepway District Councils and Kent County Council are finalising arrangements for a new joint recycling and waste contract. This innovative partnership will help to ensure that the costs of recycling, waste collection and disposal, and street cleansing services across the two districts are as low as possible.
Dover and Shepway District Councils' joint Cabinet meeting is being held at Shepway District Council offices on 13 October to make a key decision on the contract.
Subject to approval by all three Cabinets, the service is set to see the introduction of a separate weekly collection of food waste, together with the provision of new containers by the Council for the collection of householders' recycling and waste. This is set to include the use of wheeled bins wherever possible for the collection of a range of recyclables, and a fortnightly collection of waste that can not be recycled, with all areas to be assessed for the suitability of wheeled bins in partnership with a new contractor.
Although the new contract is set to start in January, changes in the service are not likely to start until later in 2011. Full details will be given to customers as new services are rolled out, and collections will continue as they currently are in the meantime.
Progress on the new contract follows a questionnaire on the future direction of the service carried out from March to June this year, to which more than 2,000 responses were received from across Dover and Shepway Districts. Two workshops were also held last month in Dover District and two in Shepway to further engage with residents.
Cllr Nicholas Kenton, DDC Cabinet Member for Environment, Waste and Planning said: "We are very pleased to be moving forward with this exciting new service, which will help us to protect resources and make dramatic improvements to the amounts we recycle. This important partnership working means we can keep our costs as low as possible, while helping us all to work together to recycle more and protect the environment for the future."
For further details, and the latest information, please see the Dover District Council website at
www.dover.gov.uk
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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9 October 2010
08:5074334i can see problems here, one lot being collected fortnightly and another lot weekly.
rubbish will be left out even longer, causing more litter problems.
9 October 2010
11:1074340This is going to get complicated!
At Whitfield where I dont really want to have a row of wheelie bins outside my house - but do have the space, I currently have two weekly collection of recyclables with garden waste and weekly dustbin. That works fine but I have 4 bins in my kitchen - dustbin bin, paper and cardboard bin, metal and glass bin and my own bin for stuff we compost. So now I need another for food waste! Its not a big kitchen - soon there wont be any more space for cooking!
Now if I have a problem what about castle street where there is no wheelie bin space - then who is going to remind me which bins to put out!
What I suspect is that we will be restricted to how much we can put out - now there is no problem - esp at christmas when one bin isn't sometimes enough and the garden recycling can run into 2 bags or more.
Answer I suspect is - take it to the tip yourself - thus entirely defeating the principle of recycling as it will use more petrol than it saves.....
Oh dear
When does the pig man call?
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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9 October 2010
11:5774345I have been telling you this for along time.Rows of wheelie bins if you have the space,what about disabled people houses with steps,flats and houses that open straight out onto the street with no side or rear entrance.Many Councils up North are being sued by people,in one area they have 9 yes 9 wheelie bins!
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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9 October 2010
14:1674353Howard...
We have the collections that you describe now so there should be no additional problem, if there are wheelie bins less rubbish because it will not be blowing around.
JHG...
No front area, most houses have back gardens you store the bin there and wheel it to the front on collection day. Flats should have space for larger communial bins. The disabled will get help the same as now. I am disabled at the moment I have to struggle with my recyclables and dustbins down my drive, I can't wait to get my wheelie bins.
Interesting that so far it is you men that are so negative to the idea.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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9 October 2010
14:3974354There are so many pros and cons re whillie bins.
Certainly they should prevent the seagull mess that occurs with rubbish being pulled out of sacks and creating a unsightly mess.
However, one sees in some areas where whillie bins have been introduced that they become a permanent fixture on the pavement as people do not move them back onto their property. Some Councils adopt a strict control with respect to ensuring residents do not block pavements.
The DDC website has a Q&A section and I asked the following:
"Will the Council ensure residents are told that if they put wheelie bins on pavements for collection they must remove them onto their own property after collection.
For the disabled such bins are an obstruction and can be described as a health and safety issue if bins remain or are permitted to be on pavements"
Reply from DDC
"I can confirm that the new contract will provide a collection from the boundary of the property therefore where possible bins will not need to go out on the pavement for collection.
However, all residents who place their bins out for collection will be asked to take them back onto their property after their waste has been collected"
Currently DDC are very good at taking up cases where black sacks are left out on non-collection days and I hope they will take whatever enforcement to keep wheelie bins from remaining as "permanent fixtures" on pavements.
Interesting I was told some time ago that for re-cycled waste that is collected it is credited to DDC whereas recycled waste taken to the tip is credited to KCC. Not sure what "credited" means, is it volume or financial.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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9 October 2010
15:5574355i rather like the idea of wheelie bins despite the attendant problems.
a lot of people see them as unsightly, nowhere near as unsightly as rubbish strewn all down the road.
i rather like that bit from ddc that says that residents will be "asked" to take their bins back off the pavement.!!
a glance down clarendon street and place on collection day will show the majority of bags on the pavement, why should it be different with the new bins?
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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9 October 2010
17:4374370Jan I hear what you say but....take my ward of Tower Hamlets as you go over the hamlets before Priory Fields School,these houses open straight out onto the pavement,yes some have rear gardens but the wheelie bin to be taken through the house? The other problem is they may not fit through the doors,these properties do not have side or rear access. So where do they leave thier Wheelie bins on the pavement next to the busy Tower Hamlets Street,and when the wind or people decide to move them as a game they will be on the main road.
I am not opposed to Wheelie bins and even said in most places they will be good,and will deal with some of the Seagull/Fox problems,take London Road going out of the Town fine on the left but on the right near Pharos where there are flats and no storage problems these are going to be left on the pavement.Not ideal!
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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9 October 2010
18:2174374john
i suspect you are making political capital out of this.
the despatch from the fuhrer bunker clearly stated that all areas would be assessed for suitability before wheelie bins were issued.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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9 October 2010
19:1074381John...
I am sure that the people of Dover can push a wheelie bin through the house I know I could, at the moment I have to drag my green bag and my recycling bins through the house.
You say you are not opposed to wheelie bins but I do not recall you making one pro comment about them.
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Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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9 October 2010
19:4874384Then read my post again Jan,London Road going out of the Town on the left hand side where there is a real litter problem will be ideal,as it will be in many houses,but some people can not have them.My stepfather and Mum have a small front garden,he is disabled and my Mum has just had a big serious operation.They have not enough room out in there front garden for 3 or 4 Wheelie bins,plus they have steps down to the footpath.
Once again I will say I am not opposed to Wheelie bins,but in some areas,some houses and for some people they are not suitable.How about charging extra for nappy collections do you think that is fair as well.My Daughter has just produced our first Granson,and because of the weekly food waste they will be charged to have a nappy collection,and how many people will pay for this.You know where the nappies will end up,being dumped anywhere and everywhere.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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9 October 2010
20:0574388john
try to read the communique again.
not everyone will be forced to have a wheeley bin.
Guest 702- Registered: 9 Jul 2010
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10 October 2010
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Interesting I was told some time ago that for re-cycled waste that is collected it is credited to DDC whereas recycled waste taken to the tip is credited to KCC. Not sure what "credited" means, is it volume or financial.
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As I understand it, each authority has a 'target' for recycling. That which the DDC take from your front door goes to their recycling contractor, whilst what you take to the Whitfield Transfer station goes to the KCC's.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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10 October 2010
15:5174431Did I see plastics being put out for a recycling collection in Sandwich recently?? We could do with that here, if so.
Re nappies - do what most of us did, use towelling ones, and don't contribute to waste and pollution ??
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Guest 661- Registered: 16 Mar 2008
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10 October 2010
16:2574435Kath I must agree on the nappy problem, use terry one's much nicer on little bottoms than trussing them up in plastic a bit like poultry on a tesco shelf. What is the matter with Whitfield not wanting wheelie bins,along with not wanting extra houses, but really thinking it's a good place to put a hospital a very snobbish NIMBY attitude from the lot of them that live up there. Maybe their C**P from the kitchen or elsewhere in the house doesn't smell like everyone else and they are happy to have loads of bin's in the kitchen.
A dog is just not for christmas save some for boxing day
Keith Sansum1
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10 October 2010
17:1374438Unless there has been a change n heart, Clarendon was NOT one of the area's down to get any suggested wheelie bin.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 October 2010
17:2074440probably a good decision in this area keith,much as i would like to have one i can foresee the narrow pavements becoming obstacle courses.
it is bad enough now parents with buggies and the disabled versions to get very far without walking into the traffic.
10 October 2010
19:4374450Thank you Humph
y for your comments which miss the point made and bring in a load of irrelevance. I did not say whitfield didnt want them. I said I didnt! My wish is my right without you building a political issue over it!
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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16 December 2010
13:3284951I wouldn't normally use this forum to winge, but this is damn annoying. The recycling crew have just ignored my house leaving a months worth of rubbish outside despite collecting everyone elses in the road. I've no idea why. As the last collection was cancelled due to the snow and another won't be due for a fortnight, I'll have six weeks of bottles, paper, plastic and so on built up outside. Thanks chaps, good job.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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16 December 2010
13:4484954some roads seem to suffer more than others with the erratic collection of recyclables.
it must get worse next year when some stuff gets collected weekly, other stuff fortnightly.